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    yesterday we went for a drive... (not for those with slow connections!)

    ...we drove all day, from glasgow to the east coast & back. On our travels we took some photos. The ones below were some of the better ones:

    First stop, Anstruther...
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    (can't decide which of those i prefer :S)

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    TBC...

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    Then we had some Fish n chips in the world famous anstruther fish shop! (tres yummy!!)

    After stuffing our faces, we headed off back home and stopped off at Grangemouth on our way....

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    All taken with Canon 400D + kit lens
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    grangemouth is mad!
    photos are nice
    anstruther fish bar is truly yummy

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    Nice pictures, one and nine are my favourite, the orange highlight on the left of the black silhouette is a very nice touch on picture one. Looks like a beautiful day for a drive

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    Wow what fantastic photo's. I really like the last three due to all the lights lit up on the power station. Good stuff indeed. Any chance you could put some larger (1280 x 1024 friendly) pictures of the power station, on imageshack or something similar? Would make some good wallpapers

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    oh, i meant to say, the photos of grangemouth may not be as clear as they could have been, but i felt dodgy enough standing in the middle of the plant taking photos, didnt really think it appropriate to set my tripod up too Kept thinking i was gunna get nabbed by the police hehe.
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    why are there no photos of ur chippy?

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    haha, cos we ate it too fast


    Digit, there's a 1280x1024 version of number 9 here

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    Epic, thanks for that

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    Nice pics. May I offer a few things I noticed? I'm far from an expert, but somehow it's easier to spot things when they're someone else's photos - does anyone else find that? That, and that whenever I take photos I only notice what would have looked better when I get home!

    In the 1st one, you capture the colours of the sky really nicely and the silhouette of the building is really nice and dramatic. I like it. Would maybe have been a little more dramatic again if you got in closer, and used a wider angle viewpoint? The only other thing is that the building is only very slightly off vertical in the photo - you can only tell because the right side is more vertical than the left. Only mentioned because it's very easy to fix in photoshop.

    Not much to say about the second one, other than that I like it.

    The 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th are nice, but the balance between the metering for the sky and foreground is slightly off balance, i.e. the foreground is a little dark. Did you shoot in RAW? These would really benefit from the HDR treatment, or failing that, a small boost to the lightness in the foreground in photoshop. Either that or using an ND grad filter would allow the sky to be exposed nicely whilst allowing the light in the foreground to be balanced.

    Numbers 3 and 4 are nice too. I would personally be tempted, though again this is very personal how much you are happy to change your photos from the way things 'really' looked, to use photoshop to clone out the lamppost next to the lighthouse, and maybe even the railings at the font as well, as they are a little distracting. Given that there isn't a huge deal going on above or below the focus of the photos, I would probably also try a squarer crop, chopping off some of the top and bottom.

    The 5th is a really nice photo, I like the way the lines of the jetty lead your eyes into the photo.

    The 6th is good too - maybe crop out the tiny bit of fencing (or whatever it is) at the bottom of the photo?

    Numbers 7, 8, and 9 are really nice - they give a really industrial feel. Were they shot at quite high ISO? They look a little noisy, and number 8 looks a little dark, but overall are really good. Noise can be fixed in photoshop too, to some extent. I really like number 9 (though again there is the slightest lean to the right in the chimneys etc).

    I hope that kind of comments is OK! I am not necessarily 'right' on any of these, just they are what struck me.

    Overall - very nice! (I have to use a thesaurus to look up other words than nice...) but I do like them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    Nice pics. May I offer a few things I noticed? I'm far from an expert, but somehow it's easier to spot things when they're someone else's photos - does anyone else find that? That, and that whenever I take photos I only notice what would have looked better when I get home!

    In the 1st one, you capture the colours of the sky really nicely and the silhouette of the building is really nice and dramatic. I like it. Would maybe have been a little more dramatic again if you got in closer, and used a wider angle viewpoint? The only other thing is that the building is only very slightly off vertical in the photo - you can only tell because the right side is more vertical than the left. Only mentioned because it's very easy to fix in photoshop.
    I'd have liked to have got a bit closer too, and been able to get it more vertical, however, what you can't see in that photo is my bf standing behind me holding on to me with one hand and the railing with the other as it was at the end of the breakwater and was really rather windy, along with the fact i thought my hands were actually going to fall off


    The 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th are nice, but the balance between the metering for the sky and foreground is slightly off balance, i.e. the foreground is a little dark. Did you shoot in RAW? These would really benefit from the HDR treatment, or failing that, a small boost to the lightness in the foreground in photoshop. Either that or using an ND grad filter would allow the sky to be exposed nicely whilst allowing the light in the foreground to be balanced.

    Numbers 3 and 4 are nice too. I would personally be tempted, though again this is very personal how much you are happy to change your photos from the way things 'really' looked, to use photoshop to clone out the lamppost next to the lighthouse, and maybe even the railings at the font as well, as they are a little distracting. Given that there isn't a huge deal going on above or below the focus of the photos, I would probably also try a squarer crop, chopping off some of the top and bottom.

    The 5th is a really nice photo, I like the way the lines of the jetty lead your eyes into the photo.

    The 6th is good too - maybe crop out the tiny bit of fencing (or whatever it is) at the bottom of the photo?
    The rest were taken free-hand. Don't know too much about shooting in RAW, and how to go about processing it, however it is something I'd like to explore.

    Again, i would have liked to have got a bit closer to the light house, however with the lack of a zoom lens, and the wind being so high, it was proving rather difficult!


    Numbers 7, 8, and 9 are really nice - they give a really industrial feel. Were they shot at quite high ISO? They look a little noisy, and number 8 looks a little dark, but overall are really good. Noise can be fixed in photoshop too, to some extent. I really like number 9 (though again there is the slightest lean to the right in the chimneys etc).

    I hope that kind of comments is OK! I am not necessarily 'right' on any of these, just they are what struck me.

    Overall - very nice! (I have to use a thesaurus to look up other words than nice...) but I do like them.
    the last 3 photos were shot at ISO 800/1600 and freehand again. I didnt really want to usemy tripod cos i felt a bit...er.... wrong taking photos of the place, despite it being a public highway we were on, but the place was surrounded with cameras and i kept thinking I was going to be arrested or something Oh and I did try the "reduce noise" and the "despeckle" tools in photoshop.... they didnt seem to make much difference however

    I've only had the camera a week, and this is the first chance i've had to really play with it, so i'm not too used to it yet, but i'll get there.


    Comments and constructive criticism will always be welcome

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    Well, you've got the bit of actually taking good photos down, which is good. RAW is definitely one of the things I would learn about first - I have found it so useful.

    Best way really to learn is to only take photos in RAW, since there is no disadvantage to this (other than maybe the 8-9MB file size), then use something like RAWShooter Essentials to process them. At first, you can easily just play with exposure +/-, then play with colout balance etc. To get the basics is easy enough to learn in 5-10 minutes, take a couple of RAW shots in your room then have a play with the program to see how it works

    I'm assuming all of the above were shot in JPEG then?

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    prefer 4 and love 9, tho' could do with a reduce noise filter passing over it - something along the lines of Noise Ninja

    or there's a frebee called Helicon NoiseFilter which is pretty good

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    Really like 1 and 9, well taken!

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    All great pics, though I agree with Alex that it's easier to spot where improvements could be made when they're someone else's shots!

    1 suffers a little from camera shake, and would definitely have benefitted from either a faster exposure or a tripod (or both?) but I appreciate what you said about the wind!

    Other than that there's the noise that Bobster mentioned, but great pics, esp as you're just getting started with the 400D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splash View Post
    All great pics, though I agree with Alex that it's easier to spot where improvements could be made when they're someone else's shots!

    1 suffers a little from camera shake, and would definitely have benefitted from either a faster exposure or a tripod (or both?) but I appreciate what you said about the wind!

    Other than that there's the noise that Bobster mentioned, but great pics, esp as you're just getting started with the 400D.
    I WAS using a tripod

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