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    Re: FX4100 vs. 3570K Strickly for Gaming?

    I was under the impression,the OP has two specifications he was looking at,as he did not say what budget he had,although this appears to not be the case from his last post.

    I might consider the FX6300:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819113286

    http://www.amazon.com/AMD-FX-6300-Si...ywords=FX+6300

    That generally is faster than a FX4000 series CPU in multi-threaded games,which FC3 appears to be.

    That will give the OP a $55 saving over the Core i5 3470 which is around $185 on Amazon.

    The reason I asked the OP if a Micro Center was near them,is since they have really good deals in-store on Intel CPUs:

    http://www.microcenter.com/product/4...oxed_Processor

    http://www.microcenter.com/product/4...oxed_Processor

    If they told us their total budget,it would be far easier,to come up with the best build for them.
    Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 14-12-2012 at 11:39 AM. Reason: Typo!

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    Re: FX4100 vs. 3570K Strickly for Gaming?

    Quote Originally Posted by Willzzz View Post
    Between a FX-4170 and an Intel i3 there is a 15fps difference on minimum frame rates.
    That will be relevant to anyone with a GTX 660 or above.
    Agreed, and I wouldn't pick an FX4100 - or 4170 - for gaming with a high end discrete card. An FX6300 might do better though (the FX8350 gets very close to the intels, which are clearly GPU bottlenecked with a 7970...). And that's the key: would an FX6300 with a 7950 be better than an i5 with 7850? And that's going to depend on the games, resolution, and settings that the OP wants to use.

    Plus, as CAT says, cutting back to 8GB of RAM and a more appropriate ~600W PSU might bring enough savings to get the i5 and the better GFX, which would be the best option of all

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    Re: FX4100 vs. 3570K Strickly for Gaming?

    Getting a 7850 on that budget is clearly silly.
    On a full out gaming build you shouldn't be spending more on the CPU/MB than on the GPU.

    This is why I recommended a 3470 which is as powerful as you need and allows you to buy at least a GTX 660 Ti, or better if the budget/other items in the budget are flexible.

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    Re: FX4100 vs. 3570K Strickly for Gaming?

    Agreed, but the OP hasn't actually told us their overall budget, what games they want to play, and what they would consider reasonable performance. For instance, the FC3 review you linked shows that at 1080p medium quality a 7850 produces perfectly acceptable performance. If the OP is happy playing medium quality, then a 7850 would be fine. If they want to try to max out everything, then they'll want at least a 7950 or GTX660Ti, which means tweaking the rest of the build.

    An i5 3470 sounds like a decent call, but as CAT says an FX6300, which looks a decent, well balanced CPU, is cheaper than the 3470. That gives the OP even more spare budget to bump up the GPU. Sadly good reviews of the 6300 aren't as easy to come by, although CAT has compiled a list of FX reviews: http://forums.hexus.net/pc-hardware/...ew-thread.html

    I think, given the OP appears to be on a tightish budget, that this isn't a cut-and-dried "get the i5" build.

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    Re: FX4100 vs. 3570K Strickly for Gaming?

    If he can take advantage of that $150 deal CAT found then it would be pretty cut and dry You could fit a 7950 in there with that price I reckon.
    Although that $255 660Ti is very good value for money.

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    Re: FX4100 vs. 3570K Strickly for Gaming?

    Thanks again and I kind of said "the hell with AMD" and went with Intel again, unfortunately. Here is the system:

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    Re: FX4100 vs. 3570K Strickly for Gaming?

    Wait? 3820? WTH? Don't spend that much on the CPU.

    Graphics card?

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    Re: FX4100 vs. 3570K Strickly for Gaming?

    Unless you got an insanely cheap deal, that's probably the worst platform to choose in terms of value for money for gaming, you'd have been better off with a cheap i5 and putting the bulk of the money into a decent GPU. Anandtech Bench uses very CPU-heavy games/settings for their CPU benchmarks so it's near-worst-case, i.e. GPU will be the bottleneck in most cases, but still: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/523?vs=702

    Nothing between them, apart from a few hundred bucks...

    (Insert infinite facepalm here)
    Last edited by watercooled; 16-12-2012 at 04:57 PM.

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    Re: FX4100 vs. 3570K Strickly for Gaming?

    I can't help but noticing that the OP didn't really listened to any advice given 32GB and that processor strictly for gaming?

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    Re: FX4100 vs. 3570K Strickly for Gaming?

    Quote Originally Posted by george1976 View Post
    I can't help but noticing that the OP didn't really listened to any advice given 32GB and that processor strictly for gaming?
    Will be an epic machine once it gets a decent graphics card added though.

    So not a well balanced machine, but a good foundation to get there.

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    Re: FX4100 vs. 3570K Strickly for Gaming?

    Quote Originally Posted by watercooled View Post
    Unless you got an insanely cheap deal, that's probably the worst platform to choose in terms of value for money for gaming, you'd have been better off with a cheap i5 and putting the bulk of the money into a decent GPU. Anandtech Bench uses very CPU-heavy games/settings for their CPU benchmarks so it's near-worst-case, i.e. GPU will be the bottleneck in most cases, but still: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/523?vs=702

    Nothing between them, apart from a few hundred bucks...

    (Insert infinite facepalm here)
    Yep, imagine spending the difference in price between those two processors, and the excessive amount of ram on a gpu... The difference in performance would be insane

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    Re: FX4100 vs. 3570K Strickly for Gaming?

    +1 to above,

    OP budget: roughly £300 judged on first post.

    IVB build ~£240
    SNB-E build ~£530

    Perfomance difference, essentially zero in games, but over twice the cost, that ~£290 difference could buy a 7970 by itself, just saying...

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    Re: FX4100 vs. 3570K Strickly for Gaming?

    DEFO 3570K, unless you some FX-4170 fanatic... imo

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    Re: FX4100 vs. 3570K Strickly for Gaming?

    Can't speak for the AMD CPU at this point, my last one was an 8350, it performed well, but I changed to a 3570k recently and I am very impressed with 'only' 4 cores. Intel wins it, albeit, at a price.

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    Re: FX4100 vs. 3570K Strickly for Gaming?

    Thread is roughly eight months old and the OP didn't really appear to heed advice offered at the time anyway.

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