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    Luxury air, or bargain budget water?

    Thinking about cooling for my Haswell-E rig

    Should I go with my original plan of a high end air cooler (Noctua NH-D15), or buy a similarly priced sealed watercooling unit, like the Corsair H110?
    Last edited by directhex; 01-09-2014 at 07:45 PM.

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    Re: Luxury air, or bargain budget water?

    Not sure is the H110 is fit to be called "bargain budget" but I would go with the AiO H2O cooler.

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    Re: Luxury air, or bargain budget water?

    Check performance specs first.

    I personally would highly rate the high-end AIO coolers, like Corsair ones. I wouldn't touch the cheaper ones.
    AIOs are mostly far superior to air coolers... mostly.

    However, a few top-end air coolers will outperform the AIOs for about the same money. Noctua coolers are probably on that short list.

    If it comes down to an AIO or a top-end air cooler, either split hairs over performance stats or look at the price.
    Corsair sometimes do refurbished AIO coolers and for the low low price they sell for, you'd be *insane* not to get one!!
    That's how I got my H100.

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    Re: Luxury air, or bargain budget water?

    Does either choice have a consequence in terms of whole system airflow/cooling?

    And if that's negligible/mitigated, would you see any actual consequential performance difference between your choices (ie, faster CPU or lower noise etc.)? If yes, does it outweigh the costs/complexity?

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    Re: Luxury air, or bargain budget water?

    I think Intel recommend an AIO water cooler for Haswell-E



    Of course they happen to recommend their own branded one, but any decent one should do the job.

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    Re: Luxury air, or bargain budget water?

    Double post

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    Re: Luxury air, or bargain budget water?

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Does either choice have a consequence in terms of whole system airflow/cooling?
    Personally, I like to think that a 240mm AIO will shift more heat out of the case than an air heatsink. The CPU temp on an AIO will probably be a few degrees higher than that of a heatsink, but the overall case temp will be lower and this cooler air will quite quickly feed into the CPU via the AIO.

    That's how my rig works, anyway... YMMV.

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    Re: Luxury air, or bargain budget water?

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Does either choice have a consequence in terms of whole system airflow/cooling?
    I think there are some tower air coolers which have angled fins to direct some airflow over motherboard power circuitry, but otherwise you just need to make sure there's adequate case-fan airflow.

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    Re: Luxury air, or bargain budget water?

    If you have the room in your case for the D15 it's a solid cooler, that said I prefer an AIO like the H110 for looks. Something to note though is that some people complain the AIOs H110 H105 and to some degree the H100i can be a little noisy unless you manually set them. Personally I haven't noticed it but others have.

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    Re: Luxury air, or bargain budget water?

    Dollar for dollar, air wins until you get into custom water loops, but be careful of the sizes of the coolers (RAM clearance).

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    Re: Luxury air, or bargain budget water?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveBC View Post
    Something to note though is that some people complain the AIOs H110 H105 and to some degree the H100i can be a little noisy unless you manually set them. Personally I haven't noticed it but others have.
    The stock fans for Corsair AIOs have terrific performance, but DO sound like Tornados gearing up for take-off.
    Many swap the fans for quieter ones and don't lose much on the performance. Corsair SP120s are very good. Their Quiet Editions drop in performance as well as volume.
    My preference is Noctuas, as they drop *slightly* in performance (3-4ยบ at full chat) but are vastly quieter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy Chan View Post
    Dollar for dollar, air wins until you get into custom water loops, but be careful of the sizes of the coolers (RAM clearance).
    Unless you have the option of refurbed AIO...

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    Re: Luxury air, or bargain budget water?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveBC View Post
    If you have the room in your case for the D15 it's a solid cooler, that said I prefer an AIO like the H110 for looks. Something to note though is that some people complain the AIOs H110 H105 and to some degree the H100i can be a little noisy unless you manually set them. Personally I haven't noticed it but others have.
    Agreed, my H105 runs my OC'd 4690K (4.6Ghz @ 1.21v) at around 60C on full load with the fan never going above 40%, it's virtually silent.

    That's on a normal load mind you, if I slam Prime 95 AVX mode or some other chip frying benchmark through it can get to 75C and the fans go up to about 60% (my fan profile is very gentle slope until 75C then ramps up very quickly - never gets this far), but for anything but benchmarks my PSU fan is louder - and that's not loud.

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