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    Intel had to use an aircon unit to get 5ghz on their older xeon according to gn

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    Re: Intel had to use an aircon unit to get 5ghz on their older xeon according to gn

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    Re: Intel had to use an aircon unit to get 5ghz on their older xeon according to gn

    Unit AMD used for its 32 core demo.



    What Intel used....!



    Sounds like Intel has dusted off the Emergency Edition again!!


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    Re: Intel had to use an aircon unit to get 5ghz on their older xeon according to gn

    Also from OcUK,this gem:

    OK. The whole Intel cooling issue gets funnier....
    The cooler apparently to some posts is a HAILEA HC 1000B. Which is illegal to be sold in Europe & US.
    Actually none of the HAILEA HC series cooling solutions can be sold legally to Europe and North America (incl Canada).
    Reason is they are using as freezing medium R22 or R134a (depending model) which are banned gases for quite some time as they belong to HCFCs. Especially R22 is banned for 14 years now.
    Also:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comme..._demo/e07b42r/

    It appears people in the US won't be able to run the cooler off normal household sockets either.

    Edit!!

    It looks like R134a will be banned in the US from 2021:

    https://www.coolingpost.com/world-ne...04a-and-r134a/
    Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 07-06-2018 at 03:30 PM.


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    Re: Intel had to use an aircon unit to get 5ghz on their older xeon according to gn

    Reason is they are using as freezing medium R22 or R134a (depending model) which are banned gases for quite some time as they belong to HCFCs.
    R1234a isn't banned, but usually new devises have to switch to use R1234yf instead now (if you have an old one, eg, cars most likely) you can continue to fill with R1234a.

    But far too many 'apparently's for my liking. The kind of gas the AC uses is a moot point beside the hilarity of using one in the first place.

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    Re: Intel had to use an aircon unit to get 5ghz on their older xeon according to gn

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    R1234a isn't banned, but usually new devises have to switch to use R1234yf instead now (if you have an old one, eg, cars most likely) you can continue to fill with R1234a.

    But far too many 'apparently's for my liking. The kind of gas the AC uses is a moot point beside the hilarity of using one in the first place.
    The cooler uses R134a not R1234a:

    http://www.hailea.com/e-hailea/product1/HC-1000B.htm

    R134a was phased out in the EU between 2011 and 2017:

    https://refrigeranthq.com/when-is-r-...ng-phased-out/

    So technically the cooling setup Intel used cannot be sold here!

    So its not only an aircon unit,but one that uses a refrigerant which is banned or being banned in many countries,and also drawing so much power,it probably won't run in an average US home without special modifications.

    Plus look at the motherboard they used to run it:

    https://www.tomshardware.com/news/in...ard,37213.html



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    Re: Intel had to use an aircon unit to get 5ghz on their older xeon according to gn

    Sorry, meant R134a. You could sell cars with AC's using it until 2017 (as long as they weren't completely new designs), and if you've got one made before that you can still top up with R134a fine.

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    Re: Intel had to use an aircon unit to get 5ghz on their older xeon according to gn

    How many 8 pin power sockets on that board?

    I think a big bucket of water they keep tipping ice into would have been more practical. Then they can sell Intel approved ice for just £100 per 1kg bag

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    Re: Intel had to use an aircon unit to get 5ghz on their older xeon according to gn

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Sorry, meant R134a. You could sell cars with AC's using it until 2017 (as long as they weren't completely new designs), and if you've got one made before that you can still top up with R134a fine.
    Well they can't sell that cooling setup brand new now(at least here I suspect),since the chip is a year end release(essentially almost 2019) and if they ran it in an average US household off a normal room socket it would cause electrical problems. So its even impractical even for such an extreme cooling setup in the first place. Plus looking at the motherboard VRM setup,and the mahoosive VRM heatsink with active cooling,it must producing a ton of heat. I thought the FX9590 was bad,but at least that would be OKish with an H100i.


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    Re: Intel had to use an aircon unit to get 5ghz on their older xeon according to gn

    You could run the whole setup on a single socket in the UK (~10A, high but about the same as my microwave).

    I like the VRM cooler, that looks like it can shift more heat than my CPU cooler. How long till we get sections of that to cooler motherboard VRMs?

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    Re: Intel had to use an aircon unit to get 5ghz on their older xeon according to gn

    Newer AMD kit beats old Intel kit?

    Is that the news.... or is it just Intel jury-rigging some cooling they got given for free down at the local scrapheap?

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    Re: Intel had to use an aircon unit to get 5ghz on their older xeon according to gn

    More fool the people who see it as anything other than a publicity stunt. It comes across as showing them on the back foot though.

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    Re: Intel had to use an aircon unit to get 5ghz on their older xeon according to gn

    I think it was indeed only so Intel could divert wind out of AMD's sails, really... and it seems to have worked, as people are talking about Intel's 'failz' instead of anything AMD might have pulled off.




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