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    5800X3d vs 5900X

    Both are pretty much the same price now and I think it could be upgrade time - 5800X3d @ 284 and 5900X @ 296. Plus, I have neck end of 100 quid in the Amazon balance. I feel justified in buying either!

    I don't know which one to get. The attraction (in the stack of reviews I've read) of the 5800X3d is that it beats the pants off the the 5900X (and too the 5950X) in gaming. Which is what I'll be using it for. No work, no productivity, just games and compiling a questionable browsing history. But...with them effectively now being available at the same price, is it still the no brainer to go for the 5800X3d? Gaming performance, while much better in some games, may not be that much in others. I play @ 1440p and most of the vulgar improvements come at 1080. Would I be better suited with the 5900X?

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    Re: 5800X3d vs 5900X

    I would go for the Ryzen 9 if it was me
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    Re: 5800X3d vs 5900X

    Tough call but I think I'd go 5900x as well, moar cooooores is better right
    Guess it depends on how long you're thinking of keeping it and if developers will scale things over cores better in the coming years vs stuff taking more advantage of more cache, its swings and roundabouts really, right now the 5800x3d is the better gaming chip but you cant deny the e-peen of all of that multicore goodness lol

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    Re: 5800X3d vs 5900X

    Sorry to make the decision harder, but I'd go for the 5800X3D

    Partly that's because it suits your uses better, but partly it's just a simpler chip in terms of having a single CCD, so less reliant on windows getting scheduling right, which in turn complicates the decision of which version of Windows you run.

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    Re: 5800X3d vs 5900X

    For me it was clear cut, this machine works for its living so I went 5900X (and do max all the cores out regularly).

    But in this case, I would go 5800X3D. It's the better gaming chip, and I don't see that changing any time soon.

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    Re: 5800X3d vs 5900X

    I personally had this choice and got the 5900x but as a photography/video production machine it made most sense while still being good for gaming and does win in some games.

    From what you are saying if gaming only the 5800x3D would be my choice as its better in most games and is generally a more gaming focused product.

    With that they are both great so neither is a wrong answer.

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    Re: 5800X3d vs 5900X

    I have the 5900X, but as others have said, for a gaming PC, the 5800X3D is the better option imho. I use my PC for a bit of video editing & rendering as well as gaming, & when I put this system together, the 5800X3D wasn't available. At 1440p and fairly high graphics settings, you might be GPU limited anyway, depending on the games you play?

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    Re: 5800X3d vs 5900X

    Just to add, I don't think there is a bad choice here. They both seem like excellent chips for gaming.

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    Re: 5800X3d vs 5900X

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Just to add, I don't think there is a bad choice here. They both seem like excellent chips for gaming.
    Agreed.

    I sympathise with the question, though. I have a habit of deciding to spend £x, and trying to decide that while both are good options, I kinda want the most bang for my £x. So I'm still trying to decide and end up just going for £x+y%, and the next model up.

    Then, AMD come along and bring out the next Gen of chips, so I go "Aha, 7900X and sorted". Then the barstewards come out with X3D versions and I'm back at square 1 again. So two flippin' years later, I'm still sitting on the fence. I can tell you, I have a very sore butt from being perched on this damn fence for this long, 'cos it is NOT comfortable here. But, Mr_Jon, there's loadsa of space here beside me, if you want?
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    Re: 5800X3d vs 5900X

    Quote Originally Posted by [GSV]Trig View Post
    right now the 5800x3d is the better gaming chip but you cant deny the e-peen of all of that multicore goodness lol
    And this is the crux of the dilemma - one's bigger but the other is shinier!

    I've struck while the iron is hot and gone for the 5800x3d. If I did anything worthwhile with the computer it would have been the 5900x, but just games it makes sense with the former. I'm hoping that I've had some kind of epiphany that the future of gaming will be all upscaling from 1080 and that massive cache will be the basis for similar future gaming processors, with game devs able enough to exploit it.

    Easily the trickiest CPU upgrade decision I've had to navigate as effectively both the same price and both excellent yet vastly different. I was initially spooked by the 5800x3d passmark score. That benchmark has been my go to for ages when deciding on an upgrade, on the basis of add 50% on to the current cpu and there we go. This cpu bucked that - going from 23k to "just" 28k, while the 5900x was sat there at with a swaggy 39k. This is an extreme case of benchmarks not telling the whole story as the strength of the 5800x3d isn't represented by passmark.

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    Re: 5800X3d vs 5900X

    The Ryzen 7 5800X3D has a big performance uplift in some games:
    https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/th...#post-36285551

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    Re: 5800X3d vs 5900X

    If gaming is your only use case, The 5800X3d makes the most sense. I don't know about now, but in the past there has been funniness around dual chiplet processors and performance. I don't expect processors with 8cores/16 threads to be any kind or limitation for gaming for the foreseeable future.
    If you have any productivity considerations where more than 8 cores can be used, then it's a tradeoff of how often the extra 4 cores and clock speed are used vs the better gaming performance of the 5800x3d. Plus consider that a super high performance gaming CPU like the 5800x3d only has much of an impact either in very high refresh rate gaming like 120Hz plus or on poorly optimised games like Star Citizen.
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