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[lynni]

Just wondering.... i burnt my hand badly last week at Tumbles on the oven (full story ask him ) and when i came home last night my flatmate was telling me a friend of hers, is a trainee chef at the Marriot Hotel and when they burn a finger or something they are made to put that finger or something back under a really hot grill or a hot plate to seal the burn.... is this wise? as a Nursey i would say no, just wondered if u knew anything about this?

[Jonlad]

sounds like suicide to me! you shouldnt cover it up , let air get to it! (just incase you have covered it up....)

[lynni]

no it should be covered with a dry dressing and thats all.... cold water till u cant feel your arm!! Both of these i did. Took the dressing off now, looking better can see the skin starting to form. I need to cover it for work tho, dont want any nasty infections in it plus it looks a mess tbh :-(

[Jonlad]

how big is the wound?

[lynni]

middle finger knuckle and spreading over to my wedding ring finger..... why?

[Jonlad]

just wondering! i burnt my arm on the oven door (i work in a kitchen) and it healed fairly quickly! with it being on a joint, does it make it worse everytime u bend your finger??

[lynni]

No not now did do, just feels stiff... but it doesnt hurt as much as it did. It was alright till New Years eve and that night it was agony :-(. Getting better tho :-)

[DR]

Lynni, you're right in what you did. Run it under cold RUNNING water until it feels totally numb, then run it under some more. The idea is to get as much heat out of the burn as possible. Then it should be dressed with a dry, non-fluffy dressing.

This whole hand under the grill thing is a myth and should never be done, ever. The same with putting creams and the like on it. If the burn is that bad, you should always seek medical attention, especially if the burn isn't painfull as this means the burn is very deep and has killed the nerve endings in the skin.

The problem with burns is that they cover a large area and can be prone to infection, so you should always cool it and dress it as soon as possible.

NOTE: This is Deckard posting on David's sign in. oops!

[lynni]

Originally posted by David
Lynni, you're right in what you did. Run it under cold RUNNING water until it feels totally numb, then run it under some more. The idea is to get as much heat out of the burn as possible. Then it should be dressed with a dry, non-fluffy dressing.

This whole hand under the grill thing is a myth and should never be done, ever. The same with putting creams and the like on it. If the burn is that bad, you should always seek medical attention, especially if the burn isn't painfull as this means the burn is very deep and has killed the nerve endings in the skin.

The problem with burns is that they cover a large area and can be prone to infection, so you should always cool it and dress it as soon as possible.

NOTE: This is Deckard posting on David's sign in. oops!

Yeah i did all that as soon as it happened, I screamed for Tumble and put it under the tap for like 15 mins.... and then covered it with a dressing. Starting to leave the dressing off now so the air can get to it (week old tomorrow) and dress it when im at work before i start my shift

[Stringent]

I always was taught to run it under the cold tap or put it on ice. Burning it will make all the skin come off! Besides, I don't think it goes down too well with the beef burgers they cook on the grill. Imagine finding someones cooked skin on your burger ... ewww!

[Gr44]

iv heard of doing that before, i think its if it opens up, then people who need to carry on ( chefs ) burn it so it closes. so they can carry on cooking, i think. but iv heard it somewhere

Stooooooooooopid though, should do what you did lol

[aeonf242]

A better way to waste my Lunch hour?

First Aid for Burns and Scalds
http://www.vitaminuk.com/pages/artic...sandscalds.htm

Depth of Burns
Burns can be categorised as follows:

Superficial burns
These involve only the outer layer of the skin, and are characterised by redness, swelling and tenderness. Typical examples are mild sunburn, or a scald produced by a splash of hot tea or coffee. Superficial burns usually heal well if prompt first aid is given, and do not require medical treatment unless extensive.

Partial-thickness Burns
These damage a ‘partial thickness’ of the skin, and require medical treatment. The skin looks raw, and blisters form. These burns usually heal well, but can be serious, if extensive. In adults, partial-thickness burns affecting more than 50% of the body’s surface can be fatal. This percentage is less in children and the elderly.

Full-thickness Burns
These damage all layers of the skin. Damage may extend beyond the skin to affect nerves, muscle and fat. The skin may look pale, waxy, and sometimes charred. Full-thickness burns of any size always require immediate medical attention, and usually require specialist treatment.

[3Dfx]

always seek medical attention

Shes a Nurse... heh heh.... seeking herself.

as a Nursey

mmMMmmMMMMmm Nurses uniforms... MMMmmmMmmmmmMMMm

[Punky]

i burnt myself quite badly at work on my arm, and i made sure i got it under the cold tap as quick as possible. 10 minutes of me running it under there and continually swearing rather loudly stopped it hurtin quite as much (swearing is optional, but satisfying, as it makes the customer you were serving feel bad cos you burnt yourself when servin them ).
if someone told me to put my already-burnt finger/arm/whatever onto summat hot again, i'd laugh hysterically at em. noooo way!
hope your hand gets better soon Lynni.
peace.

[Nick]

Originally posted by Gr44
iv heard of doing that before, i think its if it opens up, then people who need to carry on ( chefs ) burn it so it closes. so they can carry on cooking, i think. but iv heard it somewhere

Stooooooooooopid though, should do what you did lol

Yeah, its a very popular kitchen myth... others include putting a cut tomato on it... fine to help cool it down but the acid in the tomato might sting just a tad...

I think the whole thing came from the 'macho' thing of just beasting through the pain and getting the job done... I've found in the past the best way is to swear a lot, get ice on it if I can't leave the stove cos of the service being busy and just sort it out when it goes quiet... of course that is totally wrong, but needs must etc etc. Used to come home looking like a blank nought and crosses grid some nights... and the damn little burn spots all up me arms from splashed fat... ahhh... those were the days...

[Allen]

Originally posted by Deckard
and the damn little burn spots all up me arms from splashed fat... ahhh... those were the days...

I remember them... it doesn't hurt until you get a few splashes onto the same area twice, then it's like a paper cut in that it's small and painful.

Worst burn I had was a 2 inch loss of skin from the door of a combi oven set at 250 degrees C. Still didn't drop the Beef and Ale pie I was taking out at the time though