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    Die Hard 4.0 (or Live Free or Die Hard if your american)... POSS SPOILERS!

    Well, anyone seen it yet? what do you think? I saw it last night, thought it was really good, far fecthed in place, but hey, it is Die Hard after all...

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    I saw it last night and thought it was utterly brilliant Spot on for what type of film it's supposed to be
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    From the trailer it looks like it's gone back to good old shooty violence like the first one.

    I hope this is true and it's not like the 2nd one which was cak
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    I saw it last night.

    I'm THE biggest Die Hard fan ever. (Probably)
    I'd give this film a 7.
    Compared to:
    Die Hard - 10
    Die Hard 2 - 6
    Die Hard 3 - 9

    It had some great parts, the cinema laughed and oooooo'ed a lot through out the film, and I thoroughly enjoyed it, so why a 7?

    Firstly, it was violent enough for me. The 15 certificate is unbelievable. I'd NEVER have given that a 15 in a million, million, million years.

    Secondly, the pace was frantic, the hacker spiel was (just about) acceptable, the characters were played to perfection - great acting off everyone (Except Tuvoc? from Star Trek - he just looked out of place in the film), and finally, it was funny.

    So again, why the 7.
    The writers made a fatal error (3 times).

    John Mclane is the man. Why?
    He's an ordinary man put in unbelievable situations, who survives, and wins due to two things:

    1) He's rock hard.
    2) He has "bond vision" - that ability to see things quickly and use them to his advantage - using street smarts and being observant he wins through.

    Unfortunately in this film (3 times) he does something that just isn't John Mclane - At one stage he's fighting an F-15 with a Lorry.

    Enough said.

    Go there, disengage brain, and enjoy.

    Die Hard 1 it ain't.

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    yippee-ki-yay

    Sounds like a good 'un and I'll be watching this in my white, bloodstained vest at the weekend

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bazzlad View Post
    At one stage he's fighting an F-15 with a Lorry.

    It was an F35 JSF... not to be pedantic or anything, lol...

    In a few places i noticed that there was reall bad lip sync, and i mean really bad...

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    Just edited thread title to warn of the possibilty of spoilers... cos I ain't seen it yet!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CMC View Post
    It was an F35 JSF... not to be pedantic or anything, lol...

    In a few places i noticed that there was reall bad lip sync, and i mean really bad...
    I'm glad I wasn't the only one that noticed it! RIght after that gas plant blows up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMC View Post
    It was an F35 JSF... not to be pedantic or anything, lol...
    There's a difference?




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    Oh it can take off vertically. Can the F15 do that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clearlyolly View Post
    I'm glad I wasn't the only one that noticed it! RIght after that gas plant blows up?
    yea then , and also when they were running through woodlawn, and when they went to see the warlock...

    the f15 cant take off vertically, what you saw the f35 do in the film it actually can do in real life, flying wise i mean...

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    It could also probably nail that truck from 3 miles away. But since when was die hard about realism?

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    exactly, thats what makes it die hard... i loved how it made computer programming and coding and stuff look so glamourous... quite the opposite of what my java lectures and exams were like
    Last edited by CMC; 05-07-2007 at 11:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clearlyolly View Post
    It could also probably nail that truck from 3 miles away. But since when was die hard about realism?
    I fully disagree with that statement.

    Die Hard WAS about realism. It was an action film, with an average joe in place of a super hero / trained killing machine / robot. There wasn't too much unrealistic about Die Hard 1, that was the beauty of it. Pure Grit, Common Sense, and quick thinking got Maclane through - not taking on F1355000's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bazzlad View Post
    I fully disagree with that statement.

    Die Hard WAS about realism. It was an action film, with an average joe in place of a super hero / trained killing machine / robot. There wasn't too much unrealistic about Die Hard 1, that was the beauty of it. Pure Grit, Common Sense, and quick thinking got Maclane through - not taking on F1355000's.
    Accepted. Should read as "since when has a modern action film been about realism?" As for the film. I enjoyed it on it's own merits but as a die hard sequel it wasn't what I was hoping for.

    As I was saying to my mates afterwards. That scene with the jet, you could have just replaced john maclane with james bond, XXX or any modern action hero that doesn't wear pants outside his trousers.

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