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    University boots cystic fibrosis from charity drive for not being inclusive enough

    Ottawa university boots cystic fibrosis from charity drive

    OTTAWA -- The Carleton University Students' Association has voted to drop a cystic fibrosis charity as the beneficiary of its annual Shinearama fundraiser, supporting a motion that argued the disease is not "inclusive" enough.

    Cystic fibrosis "has been recently revealed to only affect white people, and primarily men" said the motion read Monday night to student councillors, who voted almost unanimously in favour of it.

    Every year near the beginning of fall classes, during university orientation for new arrivals, students fan out across the city and seek donations from passersby. According to the motion, "all orientees and volunteers should feel like their fundraising efforts will serve their (sic) diverse communities."

    Nick Bergamini, a third-year journalism student on the student council, said he was the only elected councillor present to vote against the motion. The decision is an example of campus political correctness gone too far, he said.

    "They're not doctors. They're playing politics with this," said Mr. Bergamini. "I think they see this, in their own twisted way, as a win for diversity. I see it as a loss for people with cystic fibrosis."

    The Shinearama fundraiser is carried out by students at about 65 colleges and universities across Canada. It has raised money for the Canadian Cystic Fibrosis Foundation for almost 50 years and Carleton has been participating for at least 25.

    During orientation week this year, Carleton students, who have raised about $1-million over the years, raised about $20,000, said foundation chief executive Cathleen Morrison, who was surprised and dismayed by the student association decision.

    The rationale for dropping cystic fibrosis as the beneficiary is not correct, she said. CF is diagnosed just as often among girls as boys, although the health of girls deteriorates more rapidly, she said. It is commonly considered an illness that affects Caucasians, but that includes people from the Middle East, South America, North Africa and the Indian subcontinent.

    " ‘Caucasian' as we understand it isn't just white people," said Ms. Morrison. "It includes people with a whole rainbow of skins."

    One of the councillors who voted in favour of switching the charity said Monday night that the information provided to the panel prior to the vote was factually incorrect, and he will be seeking support from other members to hold an emergency meeting to reconsider their decision. "After seeing all the reaction today, I definitely think it should be revisited and reconsidered," said Michael Monks, who represents Carleton's business students for the student council.

    Student association president Brittany Smyth said the motion came about because the association has been contemplating rotating the beneficiary of Shinearama to different charities each year instead of giving the money to a single charity.

    "It's about people wanting to do something different," she said.

    The motion was forwarded by Donnie Northrup, who represents science students. Mr. Northrup did not respond to a request for an interview.

    The preamble to the motion is Mr. Northrup's explanation for why he supports the motion, based on what he learned as an orientation-week volunteer, said Ms. Smyth.

    In making a decision, it was not the preamble but the declaration itself that matters, she said.

    "The preliminary is the councillor's own motivations and ideas," she said. "Most discussion revolved around rotating the charity."

    Mr. Bergamini said he doesn't believe the decision represents the opinion of most students.

    "They're playing racial politics with something that is supposed to bring people together -- a charity," he said.

    Ms. Morrison, who hopes to get a chance to set the record straight with the student association, said students raise a healthy chunk of the approximately $16-million raised each year to support cystic fibrosis research.

    The median life expectancy for a person with CF in Canada is just over 37 years, about twice what it was two decades ago. The money for research has helped produce a lot of international "firsts" including isolating the CF gene and carrying out the first double-lung transplant for a CF patient.

    Meanwhile, public reaction to the student association decision has been swift, from those who denounced the decision as political correctness to those who facetiously mused about what would qualify as an "inclusive" disease. Others wondered if the student association decision would affect alumni donations to the university.

    "The reasoning behind this is totally ridiculous. Eventually cystic fibrosis is a fatal disease. I wouldn't wish it on anyone," said Marie Lunney, a Carleton graduate who has worked as a foundation volunteer. "If I had a choice between donating to CF or Carleton, I'd donate to CF."
    How ridiculous is that!

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    Re: University boots cystic fibrosis from charity drive for not being inclusive enoug



    What's REALLY the issue here? Is it that the student councillors of Ottawa Uni are complete idiots? Or is it that cycstic fibrosis is a RACIST and SEXIST disease?!

    Join the campaign today - cystic fibrosis should affect EVERYONE!


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    Re: University boots cystic fibrosis from charity drive for not being inclusive enoug

    Caucasian' as we understand it isn't just white people," said Ms. Morrison. "It includes people with a whole rainbow of skins
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    Re: University boots cystic fibrosis from charity drive for not being inclusive enoug

    ^^^ Yeah they certainly bungled that up ....
    My only concern is should I hide my true identity? A costume maybe?

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    Re: University boots cystic fibrosis from charity drive for not being inclusive enoug

    The PC insanity reaches new depths.

    This makes those utter rubbishrubbishrubbishrubbishrubbish at the Manchester student union, who changed the bathroom signs because 'men' and 'women' was discriminatory against transgender \ transsexuals, look like almost normal people.

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    Re: University boots cystic fibrosis from charity drive for not being inclusive enoug

    Quote Originally Posted by pauldarkside View Post
    ^^^ yeah they certainly bungled that up ....
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    Re: University boots cystic fibrosis from charity drive for not being inclusive enoug

    Quote Originally Posted by MadduckUK View Post
    I did think that someone had used their 'source' as the Encylapedia Dramatica.......
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    Re: University boots cystic fibrosis from charity drive for not being inclusive enoug

    'The motion, which incorrectly stated the disease "has been recently revealed to only affect white people, and primarily men," created a nationwide storm of controversy.'

    But even if that was correct, and it was a condition that affected white people, mostly men, why would that be a reason to drop support for it?

    Why do these PC pricks always think that political correctness should be interpreted as 'white people don't really count for anything, pander insanely at the feet of all minorities'

    How can reverse racism be PC?

    How exactly is an outlook on life which consists of being ashamed of your own culture, ashamed of your own skin color, arse licking anybody who looks a bit non-white or otherwise different, when they neither want or need you to, and generally sticking your Guardian reading nose in where it's not wanted, going to get us anywhere?

    Respect and equal treatment for your fellow man, be they white, black, yellow or brown, regardless of culture, creed, sex, religion or nationality. That is the scope of PC. And anyone who is sane would agree with those principles.

    These silly little people haven't got a clue what PC is. Oh for them to all be killed horribly in some freak accident. Let the rest of us normal people, of all colors, get on with our lives.

    A thousand deaths upon the Guardianistas. Please die quickly.

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    Re: University boots cystic fibrosis from charity drive for not being inclusive enoug

    Stewart, according to that article schmunk linked to, it appears they might have realised how idiotic and insensative their argument was.

    Thousands have joined Facebook groups and signed a petition that will be presented during the meeting calling for impeachment of the association's president and also the author of the original motion.
    I guess Facebook is useful for something after all.
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    Re: University boots cystic fibrosis from charity drive for not being inclusive enoug

    I don't care, they all need to die. THEY ALL NEED TO DIE.

    It's like a plague, just like the Black Death or AIDS - PCitis.

    Symptoms include being a left wing, liberal, snotty nosed studenty type arsehole, who doesn't want to send a Christmas card incase it offends anyone, then makes a special card for Divali. Being American. Agreeing with the tone of articles in the Guardian. Being as thick as two shorts planks but thinking you are Karl Marx.

    Treament - smash face in until the little moob stops moving. Burn corpse.

    Sorry folks, it's the only way. Common sense will not work with these people. They are immune to it's soothing logic.

    Could possibly transport them all to an island somewhere, so they can be interfering little cocks all on their own, and let the rest of us live out our days in the world of mutual respect without self appointed life referees.

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    Re: University boots cystic fibrosis from charity drive for not being inclusive enoug

    The motion was forwarded by Donnie Northrup, who represents science students. Mr. Northrup did not respond to a request for an interview.

    The preamble to the motion is Mr. Northrup's explanation for why he supports the motion, based on what he learned as an orientation-week volunteer, said Ms. Smyth.

    In making a decision, it was not the preamble but the declaration itself that matters, she said.

    "The preliminary is the councillor's own motivations and ideas," she said. "Most discussion revolved around rotating the charity."
    This man should lose his job. If he is connected with science and represents science students then he is obviously not fit to teach science or represent science students. He just blindly accepted information from a source that was most likely biased and then went on a righteousness quest. Anyone worth 5 cents would check the information given in a medical or science text book. Hell I bet even wiki has got decent information.

    The problem now is that this line of thinking is endemic and infact entrenched within alot of higher education institutes across the western world. It's institutional political correctness. It's as damaging as any other anti-intellectual propaganda.

    I knew a family who's daughter suffered from the disease. It's terrible and she suffered alot but battled it until she died aged 14.
    "Reality is what it is, not what you want it to be." Frank Zappa. ----------- "The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike." Huang Po.----------- "A drowsy line of wasted time bathes my open mind", - Ride.

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    Re: University boots cystic fibrosis from charity drive for not being inclusive enoug

    Quote Originally Posted by Stewart View Post
    Treament - smash face in until the little moob stops moving. Burn corpse.
    "Death solves all problems - no man, no problem." - Joseph Stalin. It's one of my favourite quotes because it's simply true and in a lot of cases completely justified, from my point of view ofcourse.
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    Re: University boots cystic fibrosis from charity drive for not being inclusive enoug

    One thing I should add, btw, I saw Ricky Gervais being asked to comment on that Manchester Sutdent Union \ Bog renaming story when he was on the One Show.

    He said that they are students, and as such will probably be embarrased by their own behaviour, when looking back on it in a few years. I think he has a point.

    Luckily a lot of these imbeciles will grow out of this reverse-racism dressed up as PC. Not all of them, obviously - in some the dark side is strong. Most though, you'd think.

    So they might be rubbishrubbishrubbishrubbishrubbish, but they are students, and being a rubbishrubbishrubbishrubbish is sort of par for the course, usually to be grown out of.

    Ricky made a good point, me thinks.

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    Re: University boots cystic fibrosis from charity drive for not being inclusive enoug

    I just checked the wiki page and it has this picture. It's a sad irony, but proves my point.

    "Reality is what it is, not what you want it to be." Frank Zappa. ----------- "The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike." Huang Po.----------- "A drowsy line of wasted time bathes my open mind", - Ride.

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    Re: University boots cystic fibrosis from charity drive for not being inclusive enoug

    Quote Originally Posted by iranu View Post
    "Death solves all problems - no man, no problem." - Joseph Stalin. It's one of my favourite quotes because it's simply true and in a lot of cases completely justified, from my point of view ofcourse.
    Stalin ftw, I quite agree.

    He was of course a vile, paranoid, inhuman, mass murdering dictator of the very lowest order, but you start talking to him about MOAR rights for Peruvian one-legged pre-op Lesbian vegan dwarfs, and he'd send you to the gulag before you could say zomg.

    And quite right too. Uncle Joe wasn't all bad.

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