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So something has been made lately of how google us P3P to ignore user preferences regarding tracking.
As a tin foil hat wearing type, I thought you'd all enjoy. I think many people were shocked by that thread a while back which showed just how much information google had guessed about you!
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Phage (21-02-2012)
wow thanks for sharing
I don't care if they want to track me or not.
In my experience the ones that scream the loudest about being tracked are the ones that are doing something they should not be doing and have something to hide.
I have the same opinion of CCTV camera's as well.
Yeah, who needs privacy? We should have police officers doing regular crime sweeps of our property too. Inspect all our mail and packages before reception. Intercept all our private calls, emails, IMs, etc. We should all wear GPS ankle trackers, and every input control to be logged by our cars.Originally Posted by Larkspeed
After all, if we're not doing anything wrong, we've nothing to be worried about, right?
And there is a classic tin foil hat response.
Knowing what web sites you visit to better target advertising and all the crap you just posted are not one in the same.
They are so different it's not funny
overreaction much
Last edited by Larkspeed; 21-02-2012 at 10:40 AM.
The only people with nothing to hide, have not yet been born.
Even then, I'm not sure.
It's the same reason you lock the door before you knock one out
Its not the way I see it, the technology for one can be easily converted to do another, yes ok so at the minute they use the info for pushing adverts, but what is to say that in the future once they have been given the ok to use the info they change the way it is used..
Thats the way laws are pushed in, they pass a weakened version and then once its actually law they change it, not in a way big enough to warrant a new passing but enough to change what it actually does..
Fair enough and when they overstep the bounds and actually start invading privacy then it is a different issue and my opinion is different.
But the way it is now it's not worth the overhype and misinformation associated with it.
It's like saying people have the potential to break traffic laws therefor nobody should be allowed to drive.
Last edited by Larkspeed; 21-02-2012 at 10:48 AM.
Well, in the spirit of a more reasoned debate, I wouldn't want my surfing preferences to influence ads to other computer users.
They may well end up showing a wholly inappropriate advertisement for say, my kids.
Obviously there are mitigating actions and so forth one can take, but its the point, if you think you've taken steps which don't work, but should.
Ive always thought that those already doing something wrong tend to keep the quietest, and those that make the most noise are either just up to something that would being them shame or are living in fear of false accusation.
Nothing quite like the embarrassed look on the face of an upstanding pillar of the community when its discovered they have a liking for bondage or something.
A browser for normal use and then one with tor.
Job done.
Yes, it's quite remarkable that in this day & age, people are still bothered by those who are 'different' from them.
Wasn't like that way back when (Spartacus actually made me think of this, I have a feel it's got the background atmosphere bang on)
I was amazed to see that there are articulate, read people who think its OK to actively discriminate against people, because they don't approve of their homosexuality. I mean they see so little wrong the air that view in public.
The thing about the google tracking, is like facebook, its there for-ever. I'm sure facebook find fascinating the posts people delete, what they viewed before they deleted them, the time after posting they deleted it etc. Remember even when you delete a post there, its kept, for ever.
The problem is such information can be used in really quite stupid ways by someone. In the US for instance the republican party appears to have been taken over by people who would find many of the lifestyle choices people on this forum lead, to be 'incorrect'. What would happen if they passed another bill that infringes on the liberties of their citizens? Then extended it out to all google users worldwide.
Whilst that is far fetched, given that this data is staying forever I think that even the most improbable scenario will happen eventually.
Or am I just a tin foil hat wearer....
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I'm right there with you, what with the number of strange catch-all-if-we-want-laws created recently. My current favourite one to cite is the extreme porn law. Or the law to compel people to decrypt data.
Too much data gathering, too many make-everyone-a-criminal laws.
I readily admit, these are not (afaik) being abused today, but one need only look at the resurrection of a dead communication intercept law to see the direction government takes. No government willingly gives up the power it already has. So yeah, it might be fine today, but what about tomorrow?
This has all been covered by Kafka, Orwell et al
Kafka's most famous quote is that "A crime can always be found." In other words, you may think that you have nothing to hide, but with the complexities of modern regulation it's impossible not to have broken some law at some time. If necessary a law can even be passed to make it a crime.
Orwell's work needs no introduction of course, but there are also a number of proper papers (which I think I still have at home on some HDD) on the 'chilling' effect that this surveillance has on free speech. We already have many people too afraid to call out the frauds and quacks becuase of the litiginous nature of some organisations like Osteopaths and Scientology. Now imagine that all authorities, right down to the council, have the power to see what you're up to, legal or not.
Anyone who says that you have nothing to fear if you're doing nothing wrong is.......well, politeness forbids me from saying. <insert sound of grinding teeth>
Society's to blame,
Or possibly Atari.
dave87 (21-02-2012)
Can I get a link to that thread that "shocked" people, would be interested to read it
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