Alex Jones on the Sunday politics.

[chuckskull]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22832994

The annual conference of the secretive Bilderberg Group is meeting near Watford, with some leading political and business leaders from the US and Europe.

American "shock jock" Alex Jones joined Times columnist David Aaronovitch to discuss it - and ended up disrupting the show in spectacular fashion.

Presenter Andrew Neil described him as "the worst person" that he had ever interviewed.

For shock jock, read; Lunatic. Wow, just wow. You'd think when your subject matter is likely to get you branded crazy you'd at least try and appear sane.

[kalniel]

Oh him again. Same thing happened at CNN with Piers Morgan iirc a while back. Not worth spending the energy listening to him IMHO.

[Saracen]

Oh him again. Same thing happened at CNN with Piers Morgan iirc a while back. Not worth spending the energy listening to him IMHO.

He is what the fast-forward button was invented for, IMHO.

[GeorgeStorm]

Didn't watch it all, but the ending was hilarious:

'we have an idiot on the programme today'

Good stuff

[Spank]

Anyone else waiting for Melon to tell that he's talking absolute sense?

[melon]

Anyone else waiting for Melon to tell that he's talking absolute sense?

Hey now , I never once said I was a fan !!

He does have some good points - or did - but hes sensationalised everything so much now even the CT crowd are distancing themselves from him ( TRUE )

I used to think he was bit of a Heyoka , but now I see him pure CT porn ( and Im talking about the bad stuff )

If you didnt know any better ( esp with the way hes acting ) youd think he was in on the whole thing himself , because he must know surely at some level how annoying and rude hes being ( even if he were talking 100% sense )

[melon]

Any one in Watford ?

I mean hawt damm if Teepee were here he could bomb the whole lot of them and save us all !

And now Hague sticking up for GCHQ while ther over here planning how to screw us even further , the bloody cheek of them !

[Top_gun]

[melon]

even the sheep are ignoring him...

Maybe he can track down an Alien Big cat and ask it few questions instead ?

[Saracen]

.... because he must know surely at some level how annoying and rude hes being ( even if he were talking 100% sense )

If he doesn't understand that, he's an even bigger moron than I take him for, and that'll be quite an achievement. Thing is, he's such an obnoxious jackass that I'm not even interested in considering what he has to say, I just put him in the "idiot, ignore" category, and don't listen, based on how he tries to say it. It certainly doesn't make him more credible because he shouts and screams it, and tries to drown out everybody else. Frankly, life's too short to care what he thinks or says.

[melon]

If he doesn't understand that, he's an even bigger moron than I take him for, and that'll be quite an achievement. Thing is, he's such an obnoxious jackass that I'm not even interested in considering what he has to say, I just put him in the "idiot, ignore" category, and don't listen, based on how he tries to say it. It certainly doesn't make him more credible because he shouts and screams it, and tries to drown out everybody else. Frankly, life's too short to care what he thinks or says.

That why hes welcomed on media outlets like the BBC, if they were serious about it then why just him , instead of having some objective input from other people who have researched into as well ?

When their having their political debates , or question time they dont simply pick one side , do they ?

Some anon posters response to the Neil Video which sums it up for me

Unfortunately for those that have legitimate questions he is a walking disaster for people who want to know about the Bilderberg group. The BBC have used him to discredit any kind of suggestion that a secret meeting of many of the most powerful people in the world might not be in the best interests of democracy.

The media deliberately chose to ignore Bilderberg for decades, and now that they have been forced to report on it, thanks to 'conspiracy theorists' like Alex Jones, they are trying to destroy any suspicions that it might be remotely nefarious. Unfortunately, the media has proven time and again that it has absolutely zero desire to investigate what goes on there, and only wants to ridicule those that do want to know more.

The moral of the story is that it's not up to the public to ask questions, the media will decide for us which questions we are allowed to ask and what the answers will be. Freedom of the press is a fantasy when it comes to Bilderberg.

[Saracen]

See, melon, the contents of that quote are typical of why I can't take the Bilderberg conspiracies as anything other than Bilge.

For a start, it's a "secret" meeting so secret that it's announced in advance, covered extensively by media, the attendee list is published and got dozens of protesters shouting the usual drivel outside. Very secret, innit?

Also, if this is a 'secret government', when has a group of several hundred people ever managed to agree on anything , including what time to serve the morning coffee?

As for "ignored for decades", Bilderberg claim for years they issued press releases, but nobody took any notice, so they stopped bothering.

What all the furure really amounts to is that it's a group of influential people having a conference and they won't let the media in, so the "press" can't report on what's being said, and they draw an inference from that that it must be somehow nefarious.

Well, here's an alternative inference you can draw .... people won't speak freely if they know it will be reported, or in all likelihood, misreported, on the front page of the next day's papers.

Remember, the objective of the press is to sell papers and make money. They do, to some degree, hold power to account, but as a byproduct of selling papers. And it's a very competitive field, so a scoop and preferably a nice controversy, works wonders for your front page. It is, literally, money in the bank.

It is quite possible, and happens, that you can make something someone said appear to mean something completely different from what was actually meant by selective quoting, or simply omitting context. For example, asking someone a loaded question, and then selectively quoting the answer. This, of course, is why we get politicians answering questions the way they do.

If I was worried about a real conspiracy, it'd be the amount of power centralised in the hands of a small number of people, like Rupert Murdoch.

So what Bilderberg really comes down to is a bunch of powerful people having a conference, free from the crap press presence would bring with it. They won't let uninvited people in, so it must be a conspiracy.

If I were a Master of the Universe, melon, and wanted to organise a meeting of the heads of the Cabal, I'll tell you how I'd do it. Firstly, nowhere near the hundreds attending Bilderberg. Maybe a dozen, better yet, half a dozen. More than that and substantial agreement becomes impossible (look at the UN) . Second, I'd hold it in a quiet little setting, maybe a flat in Rome or a private house in southern France, or New Zealand, minus all the fanfare, and I'd do it while all the Conspiracy Theory nuts are camped out in Watford, wetting their collective knickers, at the 'outrage' that is Bilderberg.

As for Alex Jones, I also don't buy the notion of him being part of it. He's just a self-important little man that's made a decent living from being a shock-jock and either doesn't know when to rein it back a bit, or does know, but doesn't care to, 'cos it's all about self-publicity.

I don't dismiss concerns about Bilderberg because of what Jones says, but I do dismiss concerns about Bilderberg spouted by Jones because he spouted them. I dismiss concerns about Bilderberg because I see no actual evidence beyond the fact that it's a closed door meeting. Everything else derives from infering that that must mean it's somehow nefarious, when it may just be that they want peace and quiet without having to worry about what they said being twisted and misrepresented on the evening news and the next day's front pages.

My own bet is, get several hundred people together and they'll struggle to agree on the lunch menu, never mind a secret government.

[TeePee]

Alex Jones is a loon.

It's hard to watch when he's surrounded by the sane. At least with the Piers Morgan interview he was the saner person in the room.

He has a huge following here in the land of UFO's and lizard-overlords...

[peterb]

Ah, Saracen, you forgot to mention the most important part of your plan to hold a secret meeting. You would need a public secret meeting of a few hundred of 'the not quite so influential' to distract the press and draw public attention..

oh wait, that is the conspiracy!

[BobF64]

So, this isnt the bird that does the One Show then?

[santa claus]

So, this isnt the bird that does the One Show then?

Damn! I am feeling..ahem..wistful...and having googled "Alex Jones frollicking in a field on Sunday" I end up with this tripe.

How do these conspiracy theorist types generate the enthusiasm to care about lizards, crop circles, moon landings, alien invasion, who shot JFK and the like?

Don't waste your youth on this stuff; it's tedious beyond belief. Get out and have some booze and women instead .