YouTube Content ID Troubles.

[TheDutyPaid]

I have a small YouTube channel and always trying to grow it.

I have started a walk through of Portal 2, which was going fine till I uploaded the 3rd part (Each part was about 10 minutes) If you know the game this part showed GLaDOS getting reactivated.

The sequence is more of a video part, where you can not control the camera just have to watch. This part was matched to "TV2X2" as the copyright holder.

As far as I can find TV2X2 is a Russian network of some kind. Checking on Steam/Valve they say they are happy to let people use game footage in this way.

I now have a copyright dispute over my head and restricted on what I can do and upload.

It says on the YouTube page I will have to wait up to a month for TV2X2 to come back to me. contacting YouTube is not possible as I have a small channel, may as well throw a bottle with a message in the sea.

Has anyone had the same trouble or experience with this?

[TheDutyPaid]

Good News in my email today,

"Dear TheDutyPaid, TV2X2 has reviewed your dispute and released its copyright claim on your video,"

All back to normal now. They never had a claim to begin with, but I know other people playing the same game have had a claim from them and did not fight it, so money from adverts on their videos is going in to other peoples pockets.

[virtuo]

Bit cheeky that a company can raise a claim and essentially cripple your account, specially when they seem to do it automatically and obviously not very accurately (unless "TV2X2" has something to do with Valve?) . Can 'normal' users do it?

[redkirigi]

how much money can one earn from youtube channels?

[virtuo]

how much money can one earn from youtube channels?

I remember seeing a documentary about some kid who had a video go semi-viral. Think he got about £500 for 500,000 views (might have been a million). So it seems if youtube decide to show ads on your videos, you might get 50p-£1 for every 1000 views. But I'm sure there are lots of criteria, and the rates might have changed since I saw this maybe 2 years ago.

[TheDutyPaid]

Bit cheeky that a company can raise a claim and essentially cripple your account, specially when they seem to do it automatically and obviously not very accurately (unless "TV2X2" has something to do with Valve?) . Can 'normal' users do it?

Content ID is based on companies submitting their own copyright work, so someone like Sony music would add their latest music video from say Miley Cyrus so if the fans watch the video on YouTube it will have adverts. If Joe Blogs uploads the same video it will get matched automatically, then a claim will be raised. Sony would have a few options, let Joe Blogs make money on adverts, take control of that video with money from the adverts going to them or block the video altogether.

As you all well know computer games have into scenes, cut and and end credits. So Joe Blogs now calling him self JB Network can fool YouTube by submitting the end credits of a game (happens the most) as their own copyright work. They pick stuff in games that will never change, game play is too random to be picked up by "content ID" (start of a game you may move left I may move right and so on) When the content is matched if you do not fight it JB Network will get your monies from adverts on your video. How much? lets move on.

how much money can one earn from youtube channels?

Under the terms of AdSence I can not talk about how much money I get (Like Fight Club) So will talk about in general terms about others, lol

A channel like the "Yogscast Lewis and Simon, 6 Million Subs, average video watch 750,000 with a new video every 2 days. is enough to pay for offices and staff.

Smaller channels 100'ish subs 30 views per video maybe a £5 a month (Google only pays out at £60 balance)

This brings us back to why would scammers try it on with the smaller channels? A lot of the claims come from countries where the living wage is much lower and remember you could do this scam from a internet cafe. Spend a week adding false claims on computer games, where normally the people behind them are happy to have them shown it such a way that people are having fun playing them and you would want to buy the game to play it as well. Just look at Minecraft for that, with out YouTube it may still be a little know game. Add all the false claims together you may have extra money in the bank. May be part of organise crime and just another revenue stream.

[Gerrard]

I was going to say that people make a living off YouTube, one example being TotalBiscuit. He recently released a constructive rant over a similar type of copyright claim used by the developers of Gary's Incident to block his rather critical review of their game. It is a fairly interesting listen: -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfgoDDh4kE0

[TheDutyPaid]

I was going to say that people make a living off YouTube, one example being TotalBiscuit. He recently released a constructive rant over a similar type of copyright claim used by the developers of Gary's Incident to block his rather critical review of their game. It is a fairly interesting listen: -TotalBiscuit

Yes indeed, we live in a world where copyright claims can be used to stop people voicing true but detrimental opinions about a video game review which would hurt sales.

Here is a story from 2011 where the creator and "copyright" owner of videos of their cat had false claims put on them.
Rogues Falsely Claim Copyright on YouTube Videos to Hijack Ad Dollars

It is a bit sad that precedence is given to the claimant and little help if any to the defendant.

All in all, it is a bit like you sitting in your own home with a 3rd party claiming it is their home and you are a burglar.