Has anyone here heard of Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP)?

[TooNice]

Yeah me too.

Me three. Actually, when Lucio mentioned spambot, I thought he was referring to spambots having acquired NLP (Natural Language Processing). Kinda scary.

[Morthawt]

If you are a rare and picky reader, then get his book. Really. You will love it. I just re-read the relevant section.

Or in NLP terms: You are using words "telling" and "seen" implying that audio and video are primary representational systems to you, but if you model the behavior of Derren (because he is measurably good at this stuff) then you would find that he learned a lot of his craft through reading books, so you should try and emulate that.

But yes he does distance himself from NLP. Not because he has any fear from Bandler, it was a course with Bandler that put him off but gave him a certificate to prove that he can practice NLP. In fact he says he has two certificates, despite not asking for the second one, it just turned up after a year

It sounds like there are some useful techniques there, you just don't need the NLP fanfare and silly claims to make use of them.

Of course. You can read a web page and make use of it right away. Training and fanfare is mostly for people who are professionally teaching it. There is a lot in it that I have no purpose for, a few things I do either make use of or just by being aware of such things has altered how I think in some regards, however just having been made aware of it is an eye opening and beneficial thing. When you see what can be done, it is more difficult for someone to con you/sell you on something.

Me three. Actually, when Lucio mentioned spambot, I thought he was referring to spambots having acquired NLP (Natural Language Processing). Kinda scary.

That would be scary, although I would not be surprised if some were incorporating it because if you think about it spam bots are usually either trying to sell you something or get you to do something. Considering it is against almost all forums rules to post all the crap they do, they would need to make their bit of text as compelling as possible and I bet it would help them and create the scary situation you speak of lol. That's where knowing some of it is a good defence against others.

Edit: Hmm you mean the other nlp. So what would that exactly do if that were the case? I know nothing about that particular acronym.

[BobF64]

So in a forum environment people tend to reply to things in order of what was said. So I took your "doesn't work on everyone" statement to refer to my initial post and then I was unsure if your "All it makes me want to do is punch the person in the face." was regarding me supposedly being a spambot account (the person being the "spammer") or someone trying to use NLP with you for some purpose and in that case "the person" would be the other guy trying to use it with you.

Interesting that you assume people might want to punch you.

Not all statements are connected to each other and some are just personal expression rather than replies to previous posts.

[Morthawt]

Did I say that? Re-read what I actually said. I said I did not know what you were referring to...

[DanceswithUnix]

When you see what can be done, it is more difficult for someone to con you/sell you on something.

I think that is the problem there, you can see what is claimed and hear anecdotes of success and it all sounds very convincing but it seems that there is zero proof that any of it works.

It sounds like it has taught you a healthy skepticism towards salesmen, now apply that to the NLP business who are trying to sell NLP training and materials. Does it sound like a quick fix?

To me I think NLP is summed up by this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-24617644. Sadly it doesn't sound to me like that group is even running a con, it sounds to me something more like Dunning Kruger effect http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning...3Kruger_effect and I suspect that these people genuinely think they are doing good.