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    Hands up if you're FED UP with being told SUGAR IS THE DEVIL !!

    /hand up



    it was fat last time, hence the drop in good quality fish in ready made stuff like sandwiches and seeds in the bread recently.. now it's sugar



    it'll be oxygen next



    STOP IT!!!!

    Get OFF the bandwagon please!



    /rant over... but still raise your hand if you agree

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    Re: Hands up if you're FED UP with being told SUGAR IS THE DEVIL !!

    I fed up with being given misleading facts about both! No doubt that excessive fat is bad for the cardio-vascular system, but eating fat doesn't make you fat. And this trend towards lean meat with little taste is not good.

    On the other hand, too much sugar is not good either - dental decay, diabetes, weight gain.

    A whole industry has been created over what is good or bad, when the answer is balance and moderation.

    But above the sound of the horse (meat burger) riding into the distance, could be heard the banging of a stable gate.....
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    Re: Hands up if you're FED UP with being told SUGAR IS THE DEVIL !!

    oh it's just doing my head in

    Sugar needs taxing apprarently....

    now I hate people buying 2 or 3 cans of coke per day.. it won't do them good.. I have drunk that much coke / Dr Pepper daily for a short time and it's sugar high, sugar low.

    But.,. personally.. I do chug the odd carton of Torpicana.. in fact on this VERY FORUM years ago I suggested it as a good perk up, and you lot rightly killed me for suggesting it. Route to Diabetes... true enough.

    but once... per month... down to me really.

    Same with chocolate/sweets

    No one thinks it's doing them good.. do they?

    And "hidden calories"?

    it's sweet.. it tastes sweeet.....

    it's sweet......!

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    Re: Hands up if you're FED UP with being told SUGAR IS THE DEVIL !!

    It's the food manufacturers fault, mainly. Everyone panics about fat, so they cut all the fat out of the food. That makes it taste rubbish, so they stuff it full of sugar.

    Honestly, I think there's more truth in it than the fat campaign as well - personally, cutting out fat makes little difference, but cutting out sugar makes all the difference. The slight problem is that starch = sugar, which is what I cut out, so, erm, railing against sugar probably isn't going to be much help. Not when everyone's replacing it with bread, pasta and potatoes.

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    Re: Hands up if you're FED UP with being told SUGAR IS THE DEVIL !!

    oh it's just doing my head in

    Sugar needs taxing apprarently....

    now I hate people buying 2 or 3 cans of coke per day.. it won't do them good.. I have drunk that much coke / Dr Pepper daily for a short time and it's sugar high, sugar low.

    But.,. personally.. I do chug the odd carton of Torpicana.. in fact on this VERY FORUM years ago I suggested it as a good perk up, and you lot rightly killed me for suggesting it. Route to Diabetes... true enough.

    but once... per month... down to me really.

    Same with chocolate/sweets

    No one thinks it's doing them good.. do they?

    And "hidden calories"?

    it's sweet.. it tastes sweeet.....

    it's sweet......!

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    Re: Hands up if you're FED UP with being told SUGAR IS THE DEVIL !!

    I've just added it to the list...

    http://www.anorak.co.uk/288298/scare...m-a-to-z.html/
    Society's to blame,
    Or possibly Atari.

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    Re: Hands up if you're FED UP with being told SUGAR IS THE DEVIL !!

    Unless you're going to burn it off pretty quickly doing intense CV exercise, you don't really need any carbs at all. Better to fuel body off fats.

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    Re: Hands up if you're FED UP with being told SUGAR IS THE DEVIL !!

    Quote Originally Posted by wasabi View Post
    Unless you're going to burn it off pretty quickly doing intense CV exercise, you don't really need any carbs at all. Better to fuel body off fats.
    and now that's bonkers too.....

    so no carbs....?

    no spuds, no pasta.. no bread.. no rice....

    why is that good?

    veg and fruit have carbs throughout them.. natural sugars.. so surely to goodness you'll get carbs eating a normal diet and you'll use them.

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    Re: Hands up if you're FED UP with being told SUGAR IS THE DEVIL !!

    OK. Reverse it. Why do you eat rice and grains? What nutritional benefit do you get?

    Mashed up grains cooked with yeast loaded with huge quantities of carbs as our staple food? Strange now I'm outside looking in. How it became so normal? At least sugar is honest.

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    Re: Hands up if you're FED UP with being told SUGAR IS THE DEVIL !!

    Quote Originally Posted by wasabi View Post
    OK. Reverse it. Why do you eat rice and grains? What nutritional benefit do you get?

    Mashed up grains cooked with yeast loaded with huge quantities of carbs as our staple food? Strange now I'm outside looking in. How it became so normal? At least sugar is honest.
    You eat carbs for the same reason you eat cakes and biscuits.
    They taste nice ;-)

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    Re: Hands up if you're FED UP with being told SUGAR IS THE DEVIL !!

    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33 View Post
    /hand up



    it was fat last time, hence the drop in good quality fish in ready made stuff like sandwiches and seeds in the bread recently.. now it's sugar



    it'll be oxygen next



    STOP IT!!!!

    Get OFF the bandwagon please!



    /rant over... but still raise your hand if you agree
    /another hand up

    Like you say it was fat and now sugar. I've also heard the odd one about proteins.

    Unfortunately it's not currently available on iPlayer, but this is a brilliant show documenting the whole sugar vs fat hysteria. I won't spoil the outcome, but it's *really* worth watching, especially for anyone who thinks completely removing one of them from their diet is a sensible thing to do. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03t8r4h

    It seems like it's currently available on Dailymotion if you Google it.

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    Re: Hands up if you're FED UP with being told SUGAR IS THE DEVIL !!

    Sugar is good!

    If only we could get products with sugar here! Everything that would be made with sugar in the UK is made with Corn Syrup here because it's cheaper. It tastes disgusting.

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    Re: Hands up if you're FED UP with being told SUGAR IS THE DEVIL !!

    Quote Originally Posted by wasabi View Post
    OK. Reverse it. Why do you eat rice and grains? What nutritional benefit do you get?
    mixed with meat and vegetables...?

    I get a meal fullfilling what my body needs

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    Re: Hands up if you're FED UP with being told SUGAR IS THE DEVIL !!

    There is a rationale for banning the sale of any processed food apart from "primary" e.g. harvesting / slaughter / milling, with the only exception being eating outlets if they perform it on the same site. Oh and yes taking food away would be allowed.

    The only real issue is the amount of employment tied up within Processed Food Manufacturing, which is admittedly a large one...
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    Re: Hands up if you're FED UP with being told SUGAR IS THE DEVIL !!

    Quote Originally Posted by TeePee View Post
    Everything that would be made with sugar in the UK is made with Corn Syrup here because it's cheaper. It tastes disgusting.
    Too right, even fizzy drinks taste horrible in the US, compared to the UK equivalent.

    Not to mention the colours are usually wrong.

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    Re: Hands up if you're FED UP with being told SUGAR IS THE DEVIL !!

    Quote Originally Posted by TeePee View Post
    Sugar is good!

    If only we could get products with sugar here! Everything that would be made with sugar in the UK is made with Corn Syrup here because it's cheaper. It tastes disgusting.
    Corn syrup is invading here too, you are spot on, it tastes foul. I have pretty much stopped buying sweet biscuits and some brands of chocolate because of it. Low calorie drinks with artificial sweeteners Tate foul (to my taste buds) too.

    So I bake cakes, with sugar and fat in them, but eat them in moderation. I bake my own bread too, I know what goes in them too.

    Cutting out one source of energy or body building material is not an answer, its a question of balance and moderation.

    When I was a nipper, I went off to school fuelled by a cooked breakfast every morning
    , that was after cereal and before toast. I had a basic two course school dinner (when they were cooked on the premises, and freshly prepared) and a light tea when I came home. But I was fairly active and burnt the calories off.

    A lot of vitamins are vat soluble, so cutting fat out of a diet is not good. We have dentition ad a digestive system that has evolved to eat an omnivorous diet, but a balanced one.

    We seem to have lost the sense of balance, coupled with a more sedentary lifestyle.
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