Letters of last resort

[Spreadie]

I mean, a certain referendum was supposed to cause a collapse in the pound and an immediate recession

No, it wasn't - don't be silly - but I'm not hopeful if and when the result of that referendum is carried out.

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Option 4

[Saracen999]

No, it wasn't - don't be silly - but I'm not hopeful if and when the result of that referendum is carried out.

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Option 4

Oh, that's right. It's only what our Chancellor and his department predicted. But it wasn't really supposed to happen.

[Spreadie]

Oh, that's right. It's only what our Chancellor and his department predicted. But it wasn't really supposed to happen.

Whereas Brexit poster boy and current front runner for PM is due in court because he was totally honest about giving £350m a week to the NHS, right?

[Ferral]

Spreadie and Saracen, this has nothing to do with the referendum so kindly don't hijack this thread with more brexit stuff please, keep it in the other thread.

Me I would say Captain's Judgement if we had no government left

[spacein_vader]

For me it's captains judgement or find an ally. If we're all dead I couldn't force a surviving captain and his crew to put the blood of millions, mostly civilians, on their hands. They'd need to be able to make that judgement for themselves.

I don't get the retaliate for peace arguement. If anyone reads the letter both deference and Mutually Assured Destruction have already failed. Shooting back won't change that.

[Saracen999]

Whereas Brexit poster boy and current front runner for PM is due in court because he was totally honest about giving £350m a week to the NHS, right?

No. I said right back at tge time that that figure was misleadjng to the point of deceit, and I've said that numerous tines since.

But we're at risk of turning an oblique reference to make a point about the effect a UK nuclear Armageddon on the pound into a Brexit rehash, and I doubt anyone wants that.

[DanceswithUnix]

I would be tempted to say seek out allies, though in the current climate I would expect Trump to be as likely to kick off armageddon as Putin.

[Corky34]

Oh, that's right. It's only what our Chancellor and his department predicted. But it wasn't really supposed to happen.

Not to go to far OT but the Chancellor and his department didn't exactly predict that, if you read the reports they say it would happen if the BoE and other fiscal levers were not used, now granted it would be pretty extraordinary if the BoE didn't step in as they did with an extra £60bn of QE and a further cut in interest rates, but to say the Chancellor and his departments predictions didn't come to pass would be misleading.

Getting back OT I've still not worked-out how much destruction a single nuclear sub is capable of, i know spacein_vader said a "Trident warheads are capable of 100kt of damage. Each sub tends to carry around 40 warheads these days but on a ear footing could be carrying up to 96" but i can't envision what 100kt would do, like is that enough to flatten all of London or just part of it.

Also can those 40 warheads be interdependently targeted, so 40 targets across an area of what...I don't think i know enough about our nuclear capabilities to be capable of writing such a letter, then again i suspect the politicians who've become PMs probably don't know much more even after they had it all explained to them.

[Ferral]

Right, this is the second warning about brexit and the referendum to those concerned that are bringing it up here. This thread has nothing to do with that so kindly keep it in the relevant threads instead of hijaking this one please

[spacein_vader]

Not to go to far OT but the Chancellor and his department didn't exactly predict that, if you read the reports they say it would happen if the BoE and other fiscal levers were not used, now granted it would be pretty extraordinary if the BoE didn't step in as they did with an extra £60bn of QE and a further cut in interest rates, but to say the Chancellor and his departments predictions didn't come to pass would be misleading.

Getting back OT I've still not worked-out how much destruction a single nuclear sub is capable of, i know spacein_vader said a "Trident warheads are capable of 100kt of damage. Each sub tends to carry around 40 warheads these days but on a ear footing could be carrying up to 96" but i can't envision what 100kt would do, like is that enough to flatten all of London or just part of it.

Also can those 40 warheads be interdependently targeted, so 40 targets across an area of what...I don't think i know enough about our nuclear capabilities to be capable of writing such a letter, then again i suspect the politicians who've become PMs probably don't know much more even after they had it all explained to them.

No idea about independent targeting but when I said 100kt I mentioned the nuke dropped on Hiroshima was "only" 16kt. So imagine 6 times more destructive than the devastation cashed there and you're close.

Per warhead.

[DanceswithUnix]

How much damage can 100kt do? Here's a web page you can try the effects with:

https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

[badass]

5. I'd have the captain identify any places where brexit is being discussed by either camp and have them completely annihilated so they stop endlessly banging on about it ad nauseum in discussions that have absolutely, literally NOTHING to do with Brexit.

[peterb]

"Dear Commander,

If you are reading this, then nuclear deterrence has failed and the regular lines of communication with your chain of command have failed. You may assume that the civil and military organisations have been destroyed and are in disarray.

As the head of the Government, my first duty is to protect the citizens of the United Kingdom and her allies, and this duty I pass on to you as the last vestiges of military power. However the effects of nuclear war are so devastating as to put the human race itself at risk. Therefor you should use your judgement to determine whether retaliation would help safeguard the citizens of the UK in the short term but have a negative impact on the human race in the long term.

You are therefore authorised to use your judgement, training and the personnel under your command to assess the world situation as best as you are able, and to act accordingly within the principles I have outlined.

Good luck


Prime Minister"

[Corky34]

How much damage can 100kt do? Here's a web page you can try the effects with:

https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

That actually shows it was a lot less than i was expecting, a 100kt is a little over a 2 mile radius for fatalities and building destruction, to level somewhere like Moscow would need 7-9 warheads so effectively we'd only be able to flatten 7'ish large targets, that hardly seems worth it and going after launch sites would be a bit pointless as i guess most of them would now be empty.

[Ttaskmaster]

This is all sounding like a TV programme, isn't it? Something about the last ship alive, starring Rhona Mitra and that McSteamy doctor guy off Greys Anatomy?

Hmm, Rhona Mitra........

[Saracen999]

Right, this is the second warning about brexit and the referendum to those concerned that are bringing it up here. This thread has nothing to do with that so kindly keep it in the relevant threads instead of hijaking this one please

Agreed, but I would out that my original point was about this thread, which was that if even the threat of that unmentionable event was suggested to, and indeed to some extent did, impact the value of the pound, how much more so would it impact the pound in the event of the nuclear devastation of the entire country?

After a cataclysmic event of the nature hypothesised by the OP, there pretty much isn't a country, certainly not as a viable economic unit capable of providing the necessary infrastructure and confidence required to support a currency.

So forget referenda and instead consider the impact of, say, WW1 or WW2 on the Deutchemark. Post-nuclear armageddon in the UK, we'd be lucky if a suitcase full of £50 notes would buy a sandwich .... assuming there was anybody left to eat it.

Oh, and it was all supposed to be a flippant remark in response to Ttask's jokey post, but it seems we can't even joke about it now without people jumping all over it.