Looking like the Trade Bill for food standards has slipped down the plug hole

[Zak33]

https://www.parliament.uk/business/n...es-trade-bill/

this is a complex thing, but one thing the EU did was insist on certain standards for farming and welfare, many of which we exceeded in Britain. And whilst the farmers havent had it easy by any means, there was a set of rules to obey and they stopped the really crap food arriving to compete on price and race to the bottom.

I over simplify but that's the vibe.

For the us, it means that you will have to rely on voluntary food labeling to make choices about food standards.
Farmers will face the harsh realities of farming without the legislative protection against the race to the bottom.
And food factories will need to arrange to check all the farms etc abroad themselves (yeah..good luck there then) to see the food is what it claims, because the Gov won't inflict those standards incase it hurts trade negotiations.

I'm a food snob. Have been for 20 years. I know many people won't care where the chicken was farmed, what the pig had to go through, what was sprayed on the oranges or any of the things that the EU slowly forced into law

Farming in the UK is vital. If we go the route of importing the cheapest chicken and the cheapest beans, with no insistence that those are to the same standard we insist of the UK farmers... we will lose farmers.

Nothing on the uttelry useless BBC news site about it. Too complex for them to grasp.
They're too far up Chris Packhams rear end paying him huge sums of money to spout nonsense, recall french kissing foxes and keep the deep freeze in his garage working.

/rant ends

[kalniel]

It's a bit too complex for me too. From reading your link, it seems like the bill DID vote for maintaining the UK's environment and welfare food standards.

Environment and welfare standards

The final vote was on amendment 6B, which proposes a new clause to ensure any international trade agreement is consistent with maintaining UK levels of legal protection in the areas of:

human, animal or plant life or health
animal welfare
environmental protection
employment and labour
online protections for children and vulnerable users
healthcare and its publicly funded data processing services and IT systems
human rights and international obligations.

Members voted 277 in favour and 257 against, so the change was made.

[Duckboy79]

https://www.parliament.uk/business/n...es-trade-bill/

this is a complex thing, but one thing the EU did was insist on certain standards for farming and welfare, many of which we exceeded in Britain. And whilst the farmers havent had it easy by any means, there was a set of rules to obey and they stopped the really crap food arriving to compete on price and race to the bottom.

I over simplify but that's the vibe.

For the us, it means that you will have to rely on voluntary food labeling to make choices about food standards.
Farmers will face the harsh realities of farming without the legislative protection against the race to the bottom.
And food factories will need to arrange to check all the farms etc abroad themselves (yeah..good luck there then) to see the food is what it claims, because the Gov won't inflict those standards incase it hurts trade negotiations.

I'm a food snob. Have been for 20 years. I know many people won't care where the chicken was farmed, what the pig had to go through, what was sprayed on the oranges or any of the things that the EU slowly forced into law

Farming in the UK is vital. If we go the route of importing the cheapest chicken and the cheapest beans, with no insistence that those are to the same standard we insist of the UK farmers... we will lose farmers.

Nothing on the uttelry useless BBC news site about it. Too complex for them to grasp.
They're too far up Chris Packhams rear end paying him huge sums of money to spout nonsense, recall french kissing foxes and keep the deep freeze in his garage working.

/rant ends

This is pretty much bang on, living in a rural area, surrounded farms (in fact farmers are my biggest customers) We seriously need to look after farming in the UK, producing our own food is vital.

[[GSV]Trig]

The fact that as a vote it was that close is frightening, who the rubbishrubbishrubbishrubbish put these people in places where they get to vote on this like this?!?!

[TeePee]

The fact that as a vote it was that close is frightening, who the rubbishrubbishrubbishrubbish put these people in places where they get to vote on this like this?!?!

Usually, partisanship and single issue voters.

Everything EU has been phrased as a binary good/evil choice, and sadly this has become modern politics.

[BobF64]

And food factories will need to arrange to check all the farms etc abroad themselves (yeah..good luck there then) to see the food is what it claims, because the Gov won't inflict those standards incase it hurts trade negotiations.

You can tell they are expecting to have to lower standards when the Government refused to enshrine things in law and say things like "we wont sign deals that compromise standards".