Londoners told not to use post

[aeonf242]

The Royal Mail has told customers in London not to post anything during a spate of unofficial strikes.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3223353.stm

The Royal mail workers are at it again.

I just wonder if anyone reads these boards who works for RM? Any comments?

I only mention this again because I overheard some postie's talking at a collection office and basically they were saying that these strikes were just an excuse to have a day off.

Please discuss!

Lets not have the usual RM are cr*p postings, well maybe not?

[Howard]

What's the point

Something should be done about all this striking lately, it's clear as you said that they don't give a toss about the inconvenience caused to the public or anything, and it's an excuse to have a day off...? What a load of crap.

If I end up not recieving anything I'm expecting over the next couple of days, I will not be best pleased put it that way...

[Pezza]

In my opinion it's just the latest occurrence of an industry/company trying to pull itself out of a hole (in this case a £1mm a day loss), but hindered at every opportunity by militant left-wing unions and lazy workers.

Fire Brigade, the Tube in London etc etc.

All strikes in essential services like these should be banned, in my opinion, as should any anti-business union activity.

[Loyal]

I am currently nearing the end of a 9 month contract in South Korea, the people in UK have no idea how lucky they are IMHO.

Okay so I pay only 10% tax, but I get 0 sick days, and I am strange in that I only work 5 days a week, no NHS either.

Holidays? Again I am lucky, I had 5 days in August. (Not paid, but it balanced my pay pack for the year, so i didn't have an option)

So if you sick, go to the hospital and get a IV if you don't come back we won't pay you, if you want a holiday nuts!

Of course me being the spoilt western the boss was nice and paid me for my 1 sick day this year, and gave me a few extra days leave for Christmas last year.

Peeps in the UK have NO idea how lucky they are, they are spoilt like many of the westerns I meet in my neck of the woods.

[shiato storm]

this could explain why I'v not been getting any post for the last five days...

bunch of useless lay-abouts... just sack the lot of them and employ people who want, or rather NEED the money to actually live their lives!!...

[Pezza]

Is there no-one pro-worker/pro-union here to reply to us?

You'd have thought they'd be able to stop watching daytime telly and get off the sofa to use the computer

[TeePee]

Why in the UK? I work seven days a week, get no sick pay (statutory sick pay only), get 20 days holiday a year, but I'm only paid for 18 of them, and have to work on xmas day.

[Pezza]

That sounds particularly painful.... do you mind me asking what you do?

[aeonf242]

I think the UK is somewhere in the middle for works perks. USA get about 10 days holiday, UK gets about 20 and Europe about 25 days.
In Germany you get more time off for workers councils and such like.

Surely someone must have something to say in Defense of the Royal Mail?

Or any Royal Mail management?

[evildoc614]

I think i get more the 10 hoildays a year plus 30 days vacation a year...and no sick days, but iam in the military so thats why.. but most civilians here get about 15 regular leave, 15 days sick and what ever holidays...

[evildoc614]

Since we are on the subject of strikes... = ) the supermarket workers are striking here and the transit association ( public buses ) and i think the police are about too. its gets old i cant go to the store to get food with out being bombarded by people telling me not to shop there for one reason or another. i felt bad for the first couple of days but now iam like screw it there isnt a supermarket near me thats not striking and i need to eat!!!

[nichomach]

OK, my dad has just retired from the post office after many years, and having heard what HE'S had to put up with, I don't blame postal workers for going...well...postal. The management of the "Royal...errr...consig...errr...we just spent millions on rebranding and have no idea what our name is any more..." are abysmally poor. So aeon heard a couple of local posties cracking a joke. Bully for him. I'll bet none of you have heard the one about the postal workers agreeing a pay and conditions package with management - and then having the agreement summarily broken unilaterally by management; my mistake, that'd be the several about that. What about the one about the sorting office that was built without anyone checking whether the sorting machines would fit into it? Or that the building was waterproof? Or the management who tried to insist that workers on sorting machines zipping through hundreds of thousands of items an hour (think...rollers moving very fast) had to wear ties, even though they were obliged to lean over the machines while they were running? Or the manager who tried to suspend a Health and Safety rep for objecting to unsafe working practices? I'm not saying all posties are perfect, but dismissing them as a bunch of militant lefties is just plain wrong; and for Pezza, the hole that the management are ineffectually trying to dig the company out of is one that THEY dug, and abusing their workers isn't going to help them much.

[5cupa]

my m8 works for the PO and when they 'strike' is just told to stay at home and put his feet up...its not like the PO are great to start with

[TeePee]

I run security for a road in London. I actually have it pretty good, the guards I have get it even worse. For example the night the clocks went back they had to work a 14 hour shift, but only got paid for 13.

[Loyal]

Teepee no offence ment, I was "generalizing" one my main problems or so my friends tell me.

From my experiance working for Business Link a kind of (government qwango) before I jumped ship and spent the last two years teaching in Korea is that alot of people have no idea how hard the rest of the world works and they wonder why they are "stealing our jobs"

I am sure some people in the UK have HORRIBLE jobs worse than the average joe in Korea, However the average government (or semi-gov worker) has some fantastic deals.

As to the peep (sorry i`m writing and can not scroll up to read his user name) who listed all the things the Royal Mail managment did wrong, just because the management is crap does not mean the workers should be on strike. I am sure the management could come on here and tell us a few stories about postal works abusing the system. Its a two way street and at the moment they are blocking it for everybody. Public services should not strike, Imagine if the army went on strike, (okay thats a Mutiney) hmmm i`m diging my own grave! ahhhhh hhmmmm

Okay I don't like strikes in public services, I hate leaving my little box of bigtory and think about the other person (poor postie) it stops me being all right wing and nasty!

I can understand the posties but I do not like what they are doing.

[Pezza]

I'd agree, a general feeling of discontent with incompetant management is no excuse for striking and disrupting the lives of the rest of us.

Anyway, the real reason for these set of strikes is that one of their colleagues, who was away on paid sick leave, was caught playing a vigorous game of squash and unsurprisingly was promptly fired. Of course every layabout in every sorting office in the country then spies an opportunity to shirk work and goes and puts their feet up.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3223175.stm

Socialists, pah