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    Quote Originally Posted by [GSV]Trig
    Yup that'll make you fat then eh, the artificial sweeteners in Diet Coke cant be broken down by the body so you store them, makes me lol when you see all these fat mofo's drinking it cos its got less sugar in it, cant beat the good old marketting machine eh
    Surely the whole point is that these sweeteners are intensely sweet, so are used in such tiny tiny quantities that they contain ~zero joules of energy. How can they make you fat, then?

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    can't beat a local butcher and local fruit & veg market
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moby-Dick
    can't beat a local butcher and local fruit & veg market
    Indeed... we've started getting all our meat and eggs from the local farm shop, and organic veg delivered every week. It's MUCH nicer than supermarket stuff, and the meat is local and generally cheaper too Can't go wrong!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by schmunk
    Surely the whole point is that these sweeteners are intensely sweet, so are used in such tiny tiny quantities that they contain ~zero joules of energy. How can they make you fat, then?
    agreed. however, personally prefer my food to be natural rather than engineered - know what I'm dealing with. Nothing wrong with sugar, as long as one uses it up.



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    cor.....good posts. (And Rave WINS for the record)

    I cut back on my salt intake when I first met Sair as she nearly died when she saw how much I used to cook with.

    You can't go without salt....it's essential to life, but when you read what's on the box of , lets say, a frozen pie, you realise that just one slice gives you all the salt you need for that wohle day!!! Forget the Walkers crisps

    Sunny D made me giggle for years, cos watching a calm child turn into a wall paper chewing monster after a large glass, watching the hyper active monsters in supermarkets, was entertaining.

    But long term, we have a problem here in the UK, siumilar to the US. Luckily we generally DO seem to be sorting it out!

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    The trouble is when they take the sugar and salt out of something like baked beans they replace the sugar with scaccrine (sp?) sweetners... wtf. Why do you need sugar and salt in baked beans anyway...

    My cousins kids used to go mental after drinking squash and stuff with e numbers in, with proper food they are as good as gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve threlfall
    Why do you need sugar and salt in baked benas anyway...
    Because without them the beans take like pap.

    My parents have low sugar / low salt beans and they just don't taste of anything...

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    Quote Originally Posted by schmunk
    Because without them the beans take like pap.

    My parents have low sugar / low salt beans and they just don't taste of anything...
    Schmunk, not all cans of beans tatse the same you know. The low sugar/low salt beans by mom has bought in the past taste of vile saccharine. Its not just beans theres way too much salt in everything- in an attempt to disguise the tatse of processed food no doubt.

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    i don't cook with salt, except for some fish. it's not killed me yet (and zak/sair have had my food, which is prepared without any added salt)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33
    cos watching a calm child turn into a wall paper chewing monster after a large glass, watching the hyper active monsters in supermarkets, was entertaining
    Now that's just sadistic

    I've cut down on my artificial sweetners for at least 10 years as they always give me headaches.

    Is there any issue with using too much vinegar ? I seem to like to swamp my chips in vinegar.

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    It is amazing that adults still let their children consume all sorts of crap and then wander why they suffer from "attention deficit syndrome" and other behaviour problems.

    I don't use salt in any cooking and the only thing I might use it on are chips if I ever eat them. I think vinegar is supposed to be quite good for you but I wouldn't recommend drinking the liquid left over from the pickled onion jar!! It's one of those substances like honey that has 1001 uses.

    Sunny D (hate the name) was only drunk due to the commercials thrown at people, if you looked at the label it contains allsorts of sh1te, can't believe people will choose that over proper orange juice for the same price.
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    I drank some sunnyD once, tasted like oil to me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rave
    Yes Mr Sainsbury, vegetables are in theory good for you, but in practice some/most of your stuff is mushy intensively grown pap from a poly-tunnel in Almeria, grown with plenty of cheap north-African immigrant quasi-slave labour, and containing a fraction of the nutrients of traditionally grown veg. You counter-revolutionary capitalist pigdog.
    I take it you can prove your allegations?

    Not forgetting that I worked for JS for five years and I KNOW where a lot of their veg comes from.

    I'll just sit here and wait for real proof... so no links to some mad git's website making outrageous claims of baby strangling to increase crop yeilds, show me some proof from a recognised and respected source.

    Oh, and nutritional comparisons would be good too, though I think you need to qualify what 'traditionaly grown' veg is, perhaps? (And saying its 'veg grown in the traditional way' isn't good enough, sorry) What traditional way is that?

    And while you're on, I'd also be interested in seeing evidence of JS undermining communist ideals too... and perhaps you can supply evidence of all your income being donated to worthy causes, cos, after all, you're not playing the capitalist game, eh?



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    Quote Originally Posted by steve threlfall
    in an attempt to disguise the tatse of processed food no doubt.
    No, it's to eak as much flavour out as possible using the minimum of flavourings and/or low quality ingredients.
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    Do you know what i drink the most?

    Milk

    I mean how can you get better than 40p for 500ml and 71p for a litre??? and it tastes great

    All hail milk tbh we dont need coke (pepsi tastes better btw) milk is great!

    although i do pity the lactose intolerant people

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