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    Curbishley, next england manager?

    What does everyone think about Curbishley retiring? It's highly coincidental that he resigned 2 days after Scolari turning down the England job . I reckon it's 95% he's the next England manager.

    If he doesnt go there, i think that Newcastle is the only other job he would go to. I think he would be a great manager for england though. Just look what he did with charlton with limited resources.

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    I'm also pretty sure he will get the job. He is a good manager, the only problem is the lack of european experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Flood
    I'm also pretty sure he will get the job. He is a good manager, the only problem is the lack of european experience.

    p.s, I like your sig
    Yeah thats the only problem. The other 3 managers in the running all have european experience, but I'm wondering if Curbs knows something we don't. He wouldn't resign unless he had another job lined up.

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    Was listening to 5 Live today and they were saying they were 90% sure Curbishley would get the job...but seeing how the FA have dealt with the situation this could always change!

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    Hmmm im not sure... He said in an interview after his final Charlton game that he wanted a break cus he had never had one since he started as he went straight into management.

    I think McClaren will get it now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Flood
    I'm also pretty sure he will get the job. He is a good manager, the only problem is the lack of european experience.
    .........Or any success or tactical nous or ability to deal with top players...the list goes on, ditto Mclaren, Alladyce, Pearce etc (I hope they all become better managers but none are ready at the moment)

    Unfortunately there is no English manager that ticks all the boxes at the moment. The FA shot themselves in the foot by giving themselves no option but to appoint a manager before (before!? wtf?) the World Cup. It was the singularly most stupid, incompetent thing to do and they should all resign. I could have picked 3 candidates for the England job inside 5 minutes- it's not hard. I would have waited until after the world cup to go after them because many have other commitments - notably the WC. Sadly decision by commitee is the worst of all worlds.

    The candidates would have been Guus Hiddink, Luiz Scolari and Martin O'Neal in that order.

    The British press somehow believe that nationality and "passion" are better than a strong man manager who is tactically astute and who will not back down from the big decisions because it may upset the FA's marketing people, who only see money and not winning tournaments as the priority.

    We need root and branch reform of the FA starting with the commitee who select the England manager along with a proper stratedgy for dealing with the press (or not dealing with them as the case maybe) instead we will be left with a lame duck who will be about as ineffectual as Graham Taylorand very little will change. (Shame on you Trevor Brooking! - the one person whom I respect and who could do a good job given the correct position and chance)

    P.S. The FA should also implement an "approved boot design program" - no professional player should be allowed to wear the crappy slippers that pass for boots these days (unless they like to have their metatarsals broken) and the number of Premiership games should be severely reduced by say 10-15% in a season. Only then will England have players fit enough at the end of a season to compete in a WC.

    Ooops - sorry, that turned into a bit of a rant but it's so frustrating to see a complete balls up made when one man with half a brain (i.e. me) can work it out.
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    iranu, i had wrote a long well worded reply, but i feel it will be wasted on you.

    Mclaren for England, simple as that

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    He would be a great England Manager, but isnt Steve Mclaren odds on favourite?

    I would personally like to see Martin O Neil, hed definately inject a bit of passion.

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    I'd go with McClaren myself, boro have been on top form lately and its his doing.

    Curbishly, fair enough hes a legend, but his team have only been in the prem a year or 2, although its top flight surely it wont be the same as managing 25 of the worlds best players.


    Personally, if they went for scolari... the none english option, I have no idea why they didnt ask Arsene Wenger... probably the best man for the job (Shame hes not english, but hes been over here long enough )
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    I rate Scolari as a coach and his better prospect than Steve Mclaren lol.

    Give Curbishly 2-3yrs and by then he will be ready to step up to plate. His worked wonders with Charlton. Newcastle have a manager in mind and it's not Curbishly so I have been told.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ
    iranu, i had wrote a long well worded reply, but i feel it will be wasted on you.

    Mclaren for England, simple as that
    Yes, the very same Steve Mclaren that sat on the sidelines and did nothing during Englands defeat to Brazil. No word in Svens ear, no shouting team orders when it was obvious that the team were playing too deep. No bottle to tell Sven not to play unfit players. Yeah right. I'm sorry but at the moment Mclaren does not have what it takes to take on the England job. Boro have fluked their way to the Uefa final. As entertaining as it was to watch, coming back twice to win 4-3 reminds me of one of Harry Hills catch phrases "what are the chances of that 'appenin' eh? eh?"

    I am usually told that I am one of the biggest "little Englanders" going but I certainly don't rate whats on offer at the moment.

    Yes Wenger would be an excellent choice but I think it would be asking alot to prise him away from Arsenal when they are moving to a new ground this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swafe
    Personally, if they went for scolari... the none english option, I have no idea why they didnt ask Arsene Wenger... probably the best man for the job (Shame hes not english, but hes been over here long enough )
    They did ask Wenger but he declined and did not have the support of the bigwigs at the FA. I belive David Dein asked Wenger after the FA were turned down by Scolari

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    I'd say Big Sam Allardyce, purley as you look at what he did with Bolton and imagine that with England. He's got the passion of the game. Don't think he'll get the job as the FA Don't like him, but he's the best man for it.
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    Tactically the best out of the bunch of 4 "left" in the running (I say left, these are the names leaked to the press, O'Neill, McClaren, Allardyce, Curbishley - I doubt there's any more surprises as the FA are too incompetent to keep anything secret) O'Neill is streets ahead of the rest.

    McClaren has got lucky getting to the UEFA Cup final, he was forced into fielding 4 very good strikers due to the situation, and their opponents bottled it - twice. When it comes to Premiership matches they have come good against the best teams in the league, but this is to be expected given the quality of some of their players. Week in week out, they have been much worse than a team of their quality should be. Though, McClaren has had experience of the England unit, and will probably take the shortest time to gel into the system.

    Big "Sam" Allardyce. What a great England manager he could be. Why don't we get rid of our midfield altogether and just play Crouch up front and have long balls played over the top game after game? That would present an interesting problem for defenders shorter than 7', but really is that what we want to see when we have such a great calibre in midfield?

    Curbishley has done a great job at Charlton. Now why doesn't he just go to Newcastle and forget that a season lasts more than 3 months again, only to leave them in more of a mess than they were in under Souness.

    The FA are useless. They mess up Wembley stadium by changing plans and being generally very slow, then they try to look decisive and get a manager in BEFORE the World Cup?? This is the most rediculous thing possible, for several reasons.

    One is that it presents the problem that they have to decide whether to bring the manager to Germany or not, to be with the players and see how it is structured. If he goes then it will be uncomfortable and the press will have a field day. If he doesn't go then he won't have much time to assess the situation before the Euro 2008 Qualifiers in the autumn.

    The 2nd is that its been a huge distraction to all parties involved in the end of season run in. If any of the managers can say it hasn't been a distraction and caused problems in their clubs is lying - the clubs don't know whether their manager will be there come next season, the players don't know either, and the managers can't concentrate on their job.

    The 3rd is that they have limited the number of candidates to, basically, English managers managing in England. Only Scolari and Hiddink have been considered from abroad, and of the two, only Hiddink has decided that he is to talk about decisions before the World Cup. Now the FA have chose a manager, he has said I want to wait until after the World Cup, the press have gone mad as they believe he is to sign very soon, and then he decides against it. How clever is that, Barwick?

    And how many of the "panel" have actually played football? None. What is the Arsenal chairman doing if he is not a member of the committee? Making sure Arsene Wenger isn't selected I've no doubt. Why isn't a respected ex-footballer forming part of the panel, someone that is part of the FA already, say Trevor Brooking?

    Its a real mess, and I do honestly think that the panel members should step down and the whole process be started again, right from the beginning - clean slates and all that. There is no rush yet, the England side picks itself almost, and the first competitive match for the next manager will be in September, so there is plenty of time for a successor to be chosen.

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    I'm going to be very interested as to how Sven performs this year at the World Cup. For the first time in 2 years the team hasn't picked itself, with Rooney probably out for the duration. Now he's actually going to have to show some tactical nouse and make himself worth the ridiculous £4.7million he gets per year.

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