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    Yep, glad he got owned. There's always some bigger than you.
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    jeez.. that's gotta hurt - he took down a fair few before though..deffo deserved it

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    Man that kinda throat bang/block could easily kill him
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    I can't believe one guy standing there when the confrontation first started didn't react, even when the guy hit the female...

    Still, got pwned.
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    Sorry to piss on your parade about "zomgwtfhahathatguygotpwndlol" but the boxer commited common assault just as much as the wee ****e that simply set about the group of teenagers.

    If the "boxer" had intervened whilst the group were being set about and knocked him cold then fine, he is well within his rights to do so as he would be deemed to have acted in order to protect someone else and most probably would have been judged to act with reasonable force with regards to what he had seen, however, he acted after the event when there was no threat to himself or anyone else. There are no mitigating circumstances and he is guilty of assault.

    Now I know that there will be people posting after me saying something along the lines of "well that **** deserved it and good on the bloke" but you just can't have vigilantes doing what they see as "right". If the "boxer" had attempted to make a citizens arrest then any reasonable force would be taken into consideration but you have to make that clear before simply punching someone.....

    When I saw the start of the video my first reaction was shock and I couldn't believe that anyone could be so nasty. I myself wanted to punch that git just like the "boxer" did and quite frankly he got his comeuppence, I'd like to see scum like that given the punishment they deserve, however, that punishment must come from the law and the judiciary and not random vigilanty action. Otherwise we simply become barbaric because whom ever is strongest wins.

    I don't like the fact that we are so soft on criminals along with all the human rights tosh and people being freed automatically after 1/2 their sentence has been served etc, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah, but you can't have individuals just doing how they please even if you feel that someone got what they deserved.

    We are not equal beings, however, we are all equal under the rule of law. (in this country - I'm not talking about anywhere else)
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    Quote Originally Posted by iranu
    Sorry to piss on your parade about "zomgwtfhahathatguygotpwndlol" but the boxer commited common assault just as much as the wee ****e that simply set about the group of teenagers.

    If the "boxer" had intervened whilst the group were being set about and knocked him cold then fine, he is well within his rights to do so as he would be deemed to have acted in order to protect someone else and most probably would have been judged to act with reasonable force with regards to what he had seen, however, he acted after the event when there was no threat to himself or anyone else. There are no mitigating circumstances and he is guilty of assault.

    Now I know that there will be people posting after me saying something along the lines of "well that **** deserved it and good on the bloke" but you just can't have vigilantes doing what they see as "right". If the "boxer" had attempted to make a citizens arrest then any reasonable force would be taken into consideration but you have to make that clear before simply punching someone.....

    W
    Entitled to your opinion after all.

    Still, i'm with the majority, the idiot got what he deserved. If I saw a similar thing happen I would applaud the vigalante.

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    haha that was great, got his comeuppance etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by iranu
    BLAH BLAH SNIP...
    And that, my friend, is why the law is flawed

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    did it say "this footage from wales" ?

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    And if the vigilate's punch had killed this guy or left him paralysed or with some other disablity would that make it justified too? The above comments show that persons haven't read my post thoroughly. In our opinion the guy got what we think he deserved. Ya great - eye for an eye - lets just all take the law into our own hands.

    EG - Hey you dropped a crisp packet on the floor, that's littering in my opinion and I'll punch the hell out of you for it cos that's your come-uppence - who decides the level of punishment for the crime?

    i agree with Prop4 with regards to why the law is flawed. The law does not protect the ordinary citizen trying to ensure others are not harmed, however this cannot allow people to swing the other way and demand that ordinary citizens take the law into their own hands without some responsibiltiy.

    Would people be saying "yeah he got what was coming to him" if the boxer pulled out a machete and hacked this guy to pieces? Has anyone considered that this person's actions may not be completely rational - i.e the guy maybe mentally ill.

    Please don't get me confused with the lefty Guardian reader's assumptions that all human failings are in someways a product of the state etc and that normal people are not respnosible. I felt a pleasing sensation of "that'll teach ya you little ****" when I saw the video. However, in a world of vigilantes,

    who will police the police?
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    Quote Originally Posted by iranu
    And if the vigilate's punch had killed this guy or left him paralysed or with some other disablity would that make it justified too? The above comments show that persons haven't read my post thoroughly. In our opinion the guy got what we think he deserved. Ya great - eye for an eye - lets just all take the law into our own hands.

    EG - Hey you dropped a crisp packet on the floor, that's littering in my opinion and I'll punch the hell out of you for it cos that's your come-uppence - who decides the level of punishment for the crime?

    i agree with Prop4 with regards to why the law is flawed. The law does not protect the ordinary citizen trying to ensure others are not harmed, however this cannot allow people to swing the other way and demand that ordinary citizens take the law into their own hands without some responsibiltiy.

    Would people be saying "yeah he got what was coming to him" if the boxer pulled out a machete and hacked this guy to pieces? Has anyone considered that this person's actions may not be completely rational - i.e the guy maybe mentally ill.

    Please don't get me confused with the lefty Guardian reader's assumptions that all human failings are in someways a product of the state etc and that normal people are not respnosible. I felt a pleasing sensation of "that'll teach ya you little ****" when I saw the video. However, in a world of vigilantes,

    who will police the police?
    Yeah fair enough, an eye for an eye. A punch for a punch, not a punch for a death-dealing blow. I understand that vigilante action is under many cases morally and legally wrong but in this case it was a well deserved "taste of his own medicine"

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    with clothes like that and the fact that it's filmed in wales, it could be present day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iranu
    And if the vigilate's punch had killed this guy or left him paralysed or with some other disablity would that make it justified too? The above comments show that persons haven't read my post thoroughly. In our opinion the guy got what we think he deserved. Ya great - eye for an eye - lets just all take the law into our own hands.
    fair do's. can't go around being judge/executioner all at once can we.

    EG - Hey you dropped a crisp packet on the floor, that's littering in my opinion and I'll punch the hell out of you for it cos that's your come-uppence
    a tad over blown for a bit of littering I feel! as is this:

    Would people be saying "yeah he got what was coming to him" if the boxer pulled out a machete and hacked this guy to pieces? Has anyone considered that this person's actions may not be completely rational - i.e the guy maybe mentally ill.
    However, in a world of vigilantes, who will police the police?
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    teehee. no, yes you've got a point but at the end of the day we didn't see what this boxer guy saw and he may have been rushing to assist (cause no one near-by would do anything evidently) so his actions are justified. he prevented an attacker from getting away - granted rather effecively, and with cctv footage to support why he did and it would probably stand up in court. everyone here was truely shocked by the actions of the guy at the start - quite horrific - then all felt 'pleased' at the result when he got smacked down in one. a jury, I'm willing to bet, would probably feel the same way and not penalise the 'vigilante' but commend him. as you said, an eye for an eye, the attacker got exactly what he gave!
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    Quote Originally Posted by iranu
    And if the vigilate's punch had killed this guy or left him paralysed or with some other disablity would that make it justified too? The above comments show that persons haven't read my post thoroughly. In our opinion the guy got what we think he deserved. Ya great - eye for an eye - lets just all take the law into our own hands.

    EG - Hey you dropped a crisp packet on the floor, that's littering in my opinion and I'll punch the hell out of you for it cos that's your come-uppence - who decides the level of punishment for the crime?

    i agree with Prop4 with regards to why the law is flawed. The law does not protect the ordinary citizen trying to ensure others are not harmed, however this cannot allow people to swing the other way and demand that ordinary citizens take the law into their own hands without some responsibiltiy.

    Would people be saying "yeah he got what was coming to him" if the boxer pulled out a machete and hacked this guy to pieces? Has anyone considered that this person's actions may not be completely rational - i.e the guy maybe mentally ill.

    Please don't get me confused with the lefty Guardian reader's assumptions that all human failings are in someways a product of the state etc and that normal people are not respnosible. I felt a pleasing sensation of "that'll teach ya you little ****" when I saw the video. However, in a world of vigilantes,

    who will police the police?
    If the guy had been mentally ill he'd be in full time care, people with mental conditions that can lead to violence like that are placed in the system from an early age. Quite frankly he got what he deserved, common assault or not I'd have no qualm's knockin the kid out myself. You can preach justice for all until the cows come home, in reality that kid would've walked away, scot free even if the police had caught up with him.

    Unfortunatly the law is in no state to handle the youth of today, if ex-boxer's are up for doing it then let em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knoxville
    If the guy had been mentally ill he'd be in full time care, people with mental conditions that can lead to violence like that are placed in the system from an early age.
    Not the case where I live; the local 'mental hospital' used to hold the people. However due to lack of room and funding etc, they started giving them medication and letting them out for the day, only to return at night.
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