GTX580 to GTX670 - is it worth it?

[shamus21]

Do you mean prices will go down near Christmas?
I may wait actually, n rush here, cause 580 is ok for most of games anyway.

What do you think next gen will be?

I would stay with the 580 until the newyear , you get lots of good offers on new cards about then.

[DLUK]

580 is great, if you want to run Nvidia 3d or surround from a single card (it's all eco and green to do that) then jump 670. If you want to upgrade to a 1440p display then 670. if you hate screen tear then adaptive vsync on Kepler is ace.

Those are good reasons to change.

If your running 1080p or below in 2d then hardly anything can slow even a 570 let alone a 580 or better.

One thing to bear in mind selling a 580 now will net a lot more cash then when Kepler 'big' arrives. So you might get £100-200 now for a 580 second hand and pay little to change to 670.

[phinix]

580 is great, if you want to run Nvidia 3d or surround from a single card (it's all eco and green to do that) then jump 670. If you want to upgrade to a 1440p display then 670. if you hate screen tear then adaptive vsync on Kepler is ace.

Those are good reasons to change.

If your running 1080p or below in 2d then hardly anything can slow even a 570 let alone a 580 or better.

One thing to bear in mind selling a 580 now will net a lot more cash then when Kepler 'big' arrives. So you might get £100-200 now for a 580 second hand and pay little to change to 670.

I'm not upgrading to 1440 - I already have this screen and play on it.
I noticed that for most titles I need to lower settings from ultra to high or even lower to have smooth gameplay. I'm not greedy, 25-30fps is enough for me, but games like Crysis 2 with hig res textures won't let me play on full ultra settings with this framerate.

That is why I'm thinking about switching to 670 and then that card should keep me "warm" for a while I hope...

[DLUK]

670 will do that (680 lets me max pretty much anything at 1440p in 2d no issue or anything at 1080p 3d) and the other advantage is they run cold and quiet vs the older cards and adaptive vynsc is a killer feature on the keplers. Downside is the price, 670 is overpriced vs 7950 so you may get £100-150 for a second hand GTX 580 so is the extra £200-150 worth it for the cheapest 670's? if you go for a dual fan one from around £310 I think so. If you want a bit of SSAA and to ULTRA more games at 1080p or better.

I do think 7950 is slighty better at 1440p than 670, technically the AMD 7000's are better beyond 1080p but by a small margin and the extra 1GB VRAM is not to be scoffed at either at 1440p but it depends on if you love or loathe AMD drivers. 670 is still great at 1440p you can use FXAA to dodge the VRAM issue which tends to work better on Nvidia anyway.






Realtime 3d enviroment & lightsource reflections in the game world are taken to a new level in sandbox games in 'sleeping D's' and beyond 1080p this is where a heavy OC'ed Sandy or Ivy bridge CPU, SSD and 670-7950 or better really kick in.

'Sleeping dogs' in game screenshots a single 680 runs it fine all maxed at 1440p with FXAA NOT SSAA as well, just FXAA keeps you well above 60 FPS. SSAA as well can drop you below 40 FPS sometimes. HD texture applied to game engine (that's a free DLC).

[phinix]

Well, I got an offer for my GTX580 so decided to act quickly
I sold my 580 for £220 !!!!!
Then quickly looked for used 670 and bought one, EVGA 670 for £250.
So for additional £30 I got what I wanted - I think it was worth it this way. I only did that cause caught a guy who paid that much for it, so happy days for me
Now, I'm waiting for my 670 to arrive on Wednesday...
Can't wait to see how faster it is in real world...

[isabella]

1440p may show the difference. But not sure if the improvement justify the price?

[phinix]

1440p may show the difference. But not sure if the improvement justify the price?

£30 for 20-30% of performance improvement, around 100-130W less power used on full load - I think it justifies

[DLUK]

£30 for 20-30% of performance improvement, around 100-130W less power used on full load - I think it justifies

You'll notice it with higher AA_AF settings in games for stable FPS vs before, that the auto power functions seems to work better on kepler, how its almost won't emit any heat when idle to the point you think something is broken! And deffo more stable FPS even with vsync on in some demanding titles when maxed people seem to forget even a 670-680 at stock behave like a GTX 590 did in the more demanding games and putting on adaptive vysnc for older games produces a ton less heat! But £30 to cross over job done imho.

[Camoxide]

The 670 has more VRAM doesn't it?

And at that rez i'm sure it'd help.

[phinix]

You'll notice it with higher AA_AF settings in games for stable FPS vs before, that the auto power functions seems to work better on kepler, how its almost won't emit any heat when idle to the point you think something is broken! And deffo more stable FPS even with vsync on in some demanding titles when maxed people seem to forget even a 670-680 at stock behave like a GTX 590 did in the more demanding games and putting on adaptive vysnc for older games produces a ton less heat! But £30 to cross over job done imho.

Yep, that 670 will be a lot cooler too. Of course I will water cool it in couple of months - happy days

[phinix]

The 670 has more VRAM doesn't it?

And at that rez i'm sure it'd help.

Yep, 580 has 1.5GB, where 670 has 2GB. It helps with all hig res texture games.

[phinix]

So I finally got my GTX670.
WOOOOHOOOO!!! This thing is worth every penny!
Crysis 2 fps raised from 21-25 in average to 30-40fps!!!
And I'm not even OCing it!

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

And I'm not even OCing it!

That is because it auto-overclocks itself!!

[phinix]

That is because it auto-overclocks itself!!

Well, I know it has boost, I wasn't talking about that. I meant even further OCing. Simply don't see a reason to do it.

[DLUK]

The xtra OC only kicks in if you need it, so it's nice. To be honest all GPU's should have this, CPU's kinda have for a while. There's only a couple of games where it kicks in (well with a 5GHZ 2600k and 1440p lol), even at 1440p unless you like insane AA_AF setting at 1080p. But due to 'odd' way kepler OC's results, and stability seem best if you leave it to do it on most models.

But the auto OC and Adaptive vsync are killer features for kepler in the way Physx and TXAA are not.....

[phinix]

The xtra OC only kicks in if you need it, so it's nice. To be honest all GPU's should have this, CPU's kinda have for a while. There's only a couple of games where it kicks in (well with a 5GHZ 2600k and 1440p lol), even at 1440p unless you like insane AA_AF setting at 1080p. But due to 'odd' way kepler OC's results, and stability seem best if you leave it to do it on most models.

But the auto OC and Adaptive vsync are killer features for kepler in the way Physx and TXAA are not.....

in 1440 res I don't use AA. how about that vsync? Sorry for a noob question, but what does it do? Does it fix those screen cutting effect?