Install Std VGA drivers first??

[oshta]

i tryed to installed the drivers for my (saphire) rad 9600pro - and all it did was tell me i need to install "stadard vga drivers" first :-/

- whats going on with these "std vag drivers" - why cant i install my drivers !!

- i've googled on the subject, but not found any real anserws, only people asking for them, - help!!

daniel

[mike_w]

I don't think you need to install any standard VGA drivers. What driver version are you using? Try the latest Catalysts from ATi.

If the problems continue, try using something like Driver Cleaner beforehand.

So:

1. Uninstall any video driver you have
2. Run Driver Cleaner
3. Reboot
4. Install Catalysts

[oshta]

well, im trying to use the latest cat drivers

- but even after removing all the old drivers, they still wont work

- i think what i wants me to do it installed the std windows drivers, but they dont work eather, they just come up with "missing files"

daniel

[directhex]

registry permissions error, seen this before.

rather complex & nasty to fix.

happens a lot with ati drivers.

[directhex]

try running regedit, and going to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\PCI - in there, look for the keys whch equiate to your card (ATI's vendor id should be 1002, so it'll be something like VEN_1002&DEV_4151&SUBSYS_100010B7&REV_74)

right click on the key, click permissions, make sure SYSTEM is shown as having Full Control. check the permissions further inside that registry key are also set to give System full control.

Bear in mind as ATI cards appear in device manager twice, you need to check two separate vendor/product keys.

if anything's not showing as system having full control, report back here

[oshta]

and how micht i fix it??

- becuase this refresh rate is takin its toll on my eyes!!!


daniel

[directhex]

report, diagnose, fix.

we're still on the cycle of step 1 & 2, as you haven't said whether this is the problem. if it is, then i can take time to write the fix.

[pre]

try running regedit, and going to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\PCI - in there, look for the keys whch equiate to your card (ATI's vendor id should be 1002, so it'll be something like VEN_1002&DEV_4151&SUBSYS_100010B7&REV_74)

right click on the key, click permissions, make sure SYSTEM is shown as having Full Control. check the permissions further inside that registry key are also set to give System full control.

I've had this problem before when switching from one ATi dual display to another dual display card so I'm interested in hearing the solution. I've not seen anything referencing permisions in regedit before?

I know some of the keys are protected from editing once W2K is loaded. Could you elaborate further on the solution?

[directhex]

2k? oh dear lord no. on 2k you're on your own. amongst its many charms, regedit has no permissions management - but another app, regedt32 (i think) does. that one has no search capability or anything like that though.

bascially, if one of your keys seems to have lost its permissions, the solution is:

* go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum
* right click, permissions
* set them how they should be (Read to everyone, Read & Full Control to SYSTEM)
* click advanced, tick the second box down (replace permissions on child objects), then tick ok.

this will re-apply the correct permissions to all your hardware, including giving windows back write access to the graphics card section.

these instructions are for server 2003, and i think they're unchanged for xp. they are NOT this easy on 2000!

[oshta]

report, diagnose, fix.

we're still on the cycle of step 1 & 2, as you haven't said whether this is the problem. if it is, then i can take time to write the fix.

yeah, thats fine, except i started posing that post before you finished the one above it (look at the times, you beat me by 2-3mins)

- anyway, thanks a million, was you sayed worked 100% [im runiing XP+sp2 atm]


thanks again, saved me from going insain, thanks, daniel