Should I get a 3060?

[DanceswithUnix]

How are these miners and scalpers getting their hands on huge amounts of these things? I've seen one guy with 36x 3080s. Are the retailers giving preferences to people buying pallets before listing stock?

I would guess that if you register as a company then you can get that sort of number direct from the distributors cutting out the retailer.

[Corky34]

How are these miners and scalpers getting their hands on huge amounts of these things? I've seen one guy with 36x 3080s. Are the retailers giving preferences to people buying pallets before listing stock?

IDK but that's what P's me off the most, it's one thing competing with miners and scalpers but when you can't even get a look in because they're being snapped up before they've even been released what chance do normal buyers have.

[NonLinearLines]

With current aftermarket prices, miners will still buy these with the gimping and make profit.

The only thing going for the 3060 is they use different chips than the other cards. Meaning they won't be competing with other cards in the line. That's why we see so many 3070 instead of 3060ti and 3090 instead of 3080, since there's more profit using the GPUs with the better models. 3060, at least for launch, will have some cards available, and a ongoing drip of them going forward.

[Tea1023]

I would guess that if you register as a company then you can get that sort of number direct from the distributors cutting out the retailer.

So then they're competing directly with Scan and Currys etc, and I would have thought those two would have more buying power? Maybe the distributor gives equal shares of the stock evenly between all registered 'retailers'.

Whatever it is, it's incredibly frustrating.

[F1ZZY]

3060 should be sub £300 cards, the reality is they will probably launch closer to £500. The entire supply chain is maximising from the distorted demand and supply issues.

[Zhaoman]

With current aftermarket prices, miners will still buy these with the gimping and make profit.

The only thing going for the 3060 is they use different chips than the other cards. Meaning they won't be competing with other cards in the line. That's why we see so many 3070 instead of 3060ti and 3090 instead of 3080, since there's more profit using the GPUs with the better models. 3060, at least for launch, will have some cards available, and a ongoing drip of them going forward.

Different chips that could be used for 3050Ti or 3050 perhaps? There is nothing good about having a mining only line even if they use lower binned units. They are not ASICs and all of them if they are good for mining then they could be used for gaming so it is eating into the potential product stack somewhere. It's all a PR exercise and the worst thing is once the next mining crash happens, these cards can't be sold second hand for gaming so won't affect the used GPU market and goes straight to e-waste.

[Corky34]

I was thinking, if you're not a miner or willing to pay scalper prices does this mean the 36060 will essentially be Nvidia's top tier card? At least until (if) they bring the halving of hash rates to higher tier cards.

Unless scalper push prices to ridiculous levels on 3060's as well.

[kalniel]

I was thinking, if you're not a miner or willing to pay scalper prices does this mean the 36060 will essentially be Nvidia's top tier card? At least until (if) they bring the halving of hash rates to higher tier cards.

Unless scalper push prices to ridiculous levels on 3060's as well.

I think we'll see scalping on these too, given supply constraints. I expect Nvidia will release updated SKUs of higher chips too, which will also come with the gimped hash rate.

[Saracen999]

.... but when you can't even get a look in because they're being snapped up before they've even been released what chance do normal buyers have.

Zero, zip, nil, none, nothing, naught, nowt, bupkiss, beggar all, sweet FA, snake eyes and none. Or less. On a good day. With a tail wind.

[ik9000]

Zero, zip, nil, none, nothing, naught, nowt, bupkiss, beggar all, sweet FA, snake eyes and none. Or less. On a good day. With a tail wind.

So, you're saying there is a chance?

[F1ZZY]

half a chance maybe.........but half of nothing is still nothing

[Iota]

bupkiss

I had to Google that one, first time I've ever heard it

[NonLinearLines]

Different chips that could be used for 3050Ti or 3050 perhaps? There is nothing good about having a mining only line even if they use lower binned units. They are not ASICs and all of them if they are good for mining then they could be used for gaming so it is eating into the potential product stack somewhere. It's all a PR exercise and the worst thing is once the next mining crash happens, these cards can't be sold second hand for gaming so won't affect the used GPU market and goes straight to e-waste.

Yeah, most likely some kind of 3050 or 3050Ti that hasn't been announced yet. Assuming they even make one. They never did make a 2050.

[ik9000]

I had to Google that one, first time I've ever heard it

I heard it in an old Bran Van 3000 song way back. Always wondered if it was a distorted butt-kiss. I guess not! (see 1:50)
https://youtu.be/iR34RZPEk1k?list=RDiR34RZPEk1k&t=110

[Tea1023]

I was thinking, if you're not a miner or willing to pay scalper prices does this mean the 36060 will essentially be Nvidia's top tier card? At least until (if) they bring the halving of hash rates to higher tier cards.

Unless scalper push prices to ridiculous levels on 3060's as well.

Would be real nice if they moved the 'Ti' moniker to gaming only cards with crippled mining abilities, so you know whats available. 3070Ti to gaming, 3070 to gaming/mining etc.

[Iota]

With current aftermarket prices, miners will still buy these with the gimping and make profit.

Current aftermarket prices are pretty obscene (you only have to look at the 2xxx prices the cards have sold for on eBay), equally those older cards still have potential profit if Eth pricing remains high. I have absolutely no doubt miners will still buy the nerfed 3060 cards, especially if they have resale value. On the plus side if you can manage to get a newer card, there is potential for you to get more money back for your older card.

I was thinking, if you're not a miner or willing to pay scalper prices does this mean the 3060 will essentially be Nvidia's top tier card? At least until (if) they bring the halving of hash rates to higher tier cards.

Unless scalper push prices to ridiculous levels on 3060's as well.

Scalpers will also push pricing up on the 3060 cards I reckon, with the shortage of supply I wouldn't expect anything less.

I think we'll see scalping on these too, given supply constraints. I expect Nvidia will release updated SKUs of higher chips too, which will also come with the gimped hash rate.

I agree, Nvidia and AMD are probably just making bank at this point, just like last time around. I know Nvidia has made noise about the headless GPU and gimping hash rates on normal cards, but we all know the miners will just alter the drivers / bios or mod the cards to bypass this.