What sort of benchmark numbers should I be looking at for an M.2 ? Mine feels slow

[Tunnah]

The other week I was cleaning the PC top to bottom, fixing screws in case etc. and since after that point, all my games have increased in load time. I had some sort of BIOS reset (the weird beeps) upon restarting it, but checking the BIOS I couldn't see anything out of place.

But since then my games are SLOW to load - Division 2 is the big one, it now takes 30 seconds when it used to take 3. However I can't discount that being Ubisoft/EAC making changes. But other games too have shown increased load times, it's not much, like 1-3 seconds going up to 3-6, 8 seconds but it's noticeable and it means something is wrong. Also it's making me go a bit batty not being able to figure out what the hell has changed.

The issue is I've never benchmarked this drive, it's a Corsair MP510, I've just ran a benchmark and these are the numbers with crystaldisk mark https://gyazo.com/59ce0891b4dc5477321bd85146d1a830

Can anyone tell me if these are any good ? The speeds seem OK but the other numbers seem low. I dunno this is well outside of my wheelhouse.

[kompukare]

The other week I was cleaning the PC top to bottom, fixing screws in case etc. and since after that point, all my games have increased in load time. I had some sort of BIOS reset (the weird beeps) upon restarting it, but checking the BIOS I couldn't see anything out of place.

But since then my games are SLOW to load - Division 2 is the big one, it now takes 30 seconds when it used to take 3. However I can't discount that being Ubisoft/EAC making changes. But other games too have shown increased load times, it's not much, like 1-3 seconds going up to 3-6, 8 seconds but it's noticeable and it means something is wrong. Also it's making me go a bit batty not being able to figure out what the hell has changed.

The issue is I've never benchmarked this drive, it's a Corsair MP510, I've just ran a benchmark and these are the numbers with crystaldisk mark https://gyazo.com/59ce0891b4dc5477321bd85146d1a830

Can anyone tell me if these are any good ? The speeds seem OK but the other numbers seem low. I dunno this is well outside of my wheelhouse.

Those numbers look okay to me googling other people's results.
For instance:
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/t...1#post-4281847
Random 4K Q1 is the lowest but well within expect ranges.
I actually have this drive (960GB version) and score a lot lower (but then I have it running at PCIe 2.0 in an adapter slot due to still being on my old IB Z77 board - that's okay I bought the drive for its incredible endurance not speed):

So I think the drive is not the problem.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

As SSDs fill up they get slower and many of the quoted numbers are for empty drives! Also if you have Windows installed on the same drive,any windows processes or updates will be fighting with other application. However,as you said it was after a BIOS reset,maybe check and see if the storage settings themselves are affected.

Just for some comparison,here are the scores for my WD Black SN700 500GB,which is currently 80% full,but has no Windows installed on it.


https://i.imgur.com/pkaB9UR.png

[kalniel]

I suspect some security patches sometimes affect performance. My 970 evo+ used to bench on Magician at 350k IOPS back in summer last year, but now it's 250k IOPS - no difference in drive fullness or anything really, it's just 1/3rd slower for some reason, only visible in IOPS benchmarks

[watercooled]

Some security patches did notably affect storage performance on Intel platforms, but I can't remember which ones specifically off the top of my head.

[DanceswithUnix]

You could try a BIOS reset to defaults if you think that it got corrupted, then go put any XMP settings etc back.

I would also check temperatures in case a heatsink got knocked on cpu or chipset.

[watercooled]

The issue you described about BIOS acting up after cleaning - it could be down to the power cycle if the system is usually left plugged in constantly. I've had that happen where the CMOS battery needs replacing. Don't discount that possibility just because a system is quite new either, try unplugging the system for a few hours and see if it happens again.

I'd expect to see a drastic difference in benchmarks before the impact became noticeable in games, so it may not be a storage issue. Have you done any driver updates recently?

[Tunnah]

Whoops completely forgot about this!

Those numbers look okay to me googling other people's results.
For instance:
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/t...1#post-4281847
Random 4K Q1 is the lowest but well within expect ranges.
I actually have this drive (960GB version) and score a lot lower (but then I have it running at PCIe 2.0 in an adapter slot due to still being on my old IB Z77 board - that's okay I bought the drive for its incredible endurance not speed):

So I think the drive is not the problem.

Yeah I'm thinking that too. I tried some of my other games and I think they're loading slower too. I can't tell though because I've not played em in a while, if they're slower because of slowdown or if it's their normal speed because they're on SATA

As SSDs fill up they get slower and many of the quoted numbers are for empty drives! Also if you have Windows installed on the same drive,any windows processes or updates will be fighting with other application. However,as you said it was after a BIOS reset,maybe check and see if the storage settings themselves are affected.

Just for some comparison,here are the scores for my WD Black SN700 500GB,which is currently 80% full,but has no Windows installed on it.


https://i.imgur.com/pkaB9UR.png

Aye the issue was more, how it was night and day, rather than it being slower over time it was between reboots! This drive has been filled and refilled so many times it's at its "OK this is my performance level" level for ages now. I move games off and on it regularly

I suspect some security patches sometimes affect performance. My 970 evo+ used to bench on Magician at 350k IOPS back in summer last year, but now it's 250k IOPS - no difference in drive fullness or anything really, it's just 1/3rd slower for some reason, only visible in IOPS benchmarks

Some security patches did notably affect storage performance on Intel platforms, but I can't remember which ones specifically off the top of my head.

This one makes a lot of sense, I have windows update disabled/set to not install anything until I tell it to, because..well, windows. But I've noticed lately it's started to install stuff anyway, and as it was between reboots..dodgy thing

You could try a BIOS reset to defaults if you think that it got corrupted, then go put any XMP settings etc back.

I would also check temperatures in case a heatsink got knocked on cpu or chipset.

Temps are fine, weirdly enough AISuite has a temp setting for AIO Pump that is actually for the fan on the chipset (X570), and the temps on there are fine. Aside from XMP the BIOS is actually default, I've not really ever done anything to it. But I did try resetting then reenabling XMP, no changes :/

The issue you described about BIOS acting up after cleaning - it could be down to the power cycle if the system is usually left plugged in constantly. I've had that happen where the CMOS battery needs replacing. Don't discount that possibility just because a system is quite new either, try unplugging the system for a few hours and see if it happens again.

I'd expect to see a drastic difference in benchmarks before the impact became noticeable in games, so it may not be a storage issue. Have you done any driver updates recently?

It was about 30mins mate, I regularly unplug it to clean out the insides (like once a month) and this is the first time it happened. I think it was more I messed with the graphics card (it's got a big ginormous Arctic cooler on it and it fits AWFUL inside my PC. But eh lovely temps). No driver updates afaik, the only one would be nvidia and I tend to hold off on them unless I'm playing a new game that needs em. I'll still give the battery thing I try though because why not eh ?

Cheers for the advice everyone.

[Alloys]

Numbers seem to be on par with the MP510 I have

[watercooled]

This one makes a lot of sense, I have windows update disabled/set to not install anything until I tell it to, because..well, windows. But I've noticed lately it's started to install stuff anyway, and as it was between reboots..dodgy thing

Off-topic but just wanted to say outright avoiding Windows updates is generally a Very Bad Idea (TM). I understand the frustration with updates occasionally breaking something (though in reality it's quite rare for most people), or rebooting at an inconvenient time, but you can usually work around that with the more recent (and sensible) option to postpone reboots for important updates. MS have made it very difficult to avoid updates, with good reason IMO; unpatched systems on older versions of Windows led to the easy proliferation of some major worms and virus. Even some of the major headline ones, did not affect fully patched systems.

If you insist on overriding the defaults, you must take on that responsibility and ensure you are still installing important updates regularly and as soon as reasonably possible.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I was doing some research on the MP510 and it appears Corsair has quietly replaced it with the MP510B,which has much lower endurance:
https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/Catego...SD-F960GBMP510
https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/Catego...D-F960GBMP510B
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/960g...280k-700k-iops

The MP510 960GB had an endurance of 1665TB and the MP510B 960GB is 700TB.

[kompukare]

I was doing some research on the MP510 and it appears Corsair has quietly replaced it with the MP510B,which has much lower endurance:
https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/Catego...SD-F960GBMP510
https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/Catego...D-F960GBMP510B
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/960g...280k-700k-iops

The MP510 960GB had an endurance of 1665TB and the MP510B 960GB is 700TB.

That's a huge drop in endurance.
Skinflint has a redundantary comparison of the two:
https://skinflint.co.uk/?cmp=2253838&cmp=1907832
But there a few missing things there, like which controller etc. Max rated IOPS is about the only thing which went up.