News - Ofcom: BT's copper network capable of 50Mbit/s, in theory

[Betty_Swallocks]

Well, good luck with finding an alternavie supplier who can give you anything like the speeds you get from cable. (Unless you live in a tent in the exchange car park that is.)

[HSK]

sounds like a load of bull! BT need to deliver. but its all about their best interest and money...anything to get out of upgrading the network...this is another excuse i think.

[Mblaster]

We are on virgin cable and i would like to change to a totally different company due to the whole thing about them allowing the music industries spy on your internet traffic. Not that i have been doing anything wrong i just feel its an invasion of my privacy and i don't know what else they may do with the information.

I may have to story all wrong though.

The music industry spy on your internet traffic anyway (by connecting to torrent trackers and finding people uploading files, or some other method). Then they have your IP and send it to the ISP, and they would like the ISP to cut you off at this point, but at the moment they just send you a warning letter. So the music industry have your IP and the ISP link that IP to your account.

At least that's my understanding of how it works.

[Biscuit]

i dont use torrents though i was under the understanding they could see more than torrent traffic now?

Well, good luck with finding an alternavie supplier who can give you anything like the speeds you get from cable. (Unless you live in a tent in the exchange car park that is.)

Its only a 2Mb cable line at the moment and we pay for tv aswell, personally i dont watch a lot of TV and there isnt a great deal of difference between freeview and virgin TV

[AdamAnubis]

And it won't just be VM that will be spying on your, practically all the ISP's will eventually if the big companies get their way. Changing company will do very little.

[Biscuit]

Aquiss dont

[mercyground]

Easy answer. If they send you a letter, send one back stating that you object to the monitoring and handing over of your personal details to a industry that is corrupt and bending rules in what is a purely CIVIL matter. It is NOT criminal case. Its a civil one for copyright infringement. Then cancel your contract with your ISP and find a new one. Also make a complaint to the data commisionar. Add another one to your local MP.

We are NOT subject to america's laws here and "backdoor" methods to "force" your ISP's to be the new KGB are illegal.
Its tantamount to your phone provider being lible for you threatening to kill the queen in a conversation to your friend.
Isp's have up till now been treated just like phone providers. They just provide a service. What you do with it is up to you. (cant for the life of me remember what the term for it is right now. 2am fuzzyness)

If logic extends then surely gun manufacturers are liable for all the shootings? Car manufactuers for all the crashes? Madness. Same exclusion deal should apply to ISP's. Unless you'd like to sue your ISP for providing service for spammers, pedo's and other nasties. (I'll give you a clue. You wont win that one)

Between the new terror laws and the content Mafia we are becoming a monitored society. I dont like it and i'll fight it every way i can. Not because i have something to hide... but by the fact that the government has already proved that it CANNOT be trusted with our data. Missing CD's anyone?

I object being treated like a criminal by the content mafia. In a global industry, why do we have "region locking?", Why do we have restrictions on transcoding?(If i buy a dvd I fully expect to be able to drop it to a psp or other media device to view it on a train or elsewhere. I BOUGHT the content. I did not rent it.) They want us to pay pay pay. Want it on blueray? pay up. Want it on psp? Pay again. Lost your WMA/DRM files cos your computer craps out? Tough ****. Buy it again. (Yes iTunes i'm looking at you).

What really gets my goat about all this is they say they are doing it for the artists. Not one penny of those lawsuits has gone back to the artists. Its all for more lawsuits and fattening lawyers pockets.
I pray that more artists go online and do direct to fans marketing. Direct downloads of a few quid per song and less middlemen will go a long way to solving the issue. Bringing in proper music services with full backcatalogs instead of eking them out (Disney's "limited" Dvd releases. <spit>) would bring in more fans. If the content mafia was sued out of existance i wouldnt cry one bit. Less crap boybands and Xfactor canned "talent" for us to listen to. More decent music.

I dislike marketing too. I have my phone number private and pursue those companys that phone me for marketing purposes.

hmm... oh yeah. back to downloading... If our creaking networks can "handle" it. Welcome to the digital age. PS. I like Iplayer from BBC. I use it on our Virgin+ box. Saves my poor 2mb cable modem that way. Also love the fastfwd throu adverts. I dont have time for debt loans or other crap ads (why are these on kids tv channels anyway?)

Crap... busted for watching Boomerang... sigh