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    Re: News - AMD expects Microsoft's Windows 7 to launch in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by j.o.s.h.1408 View Post
    maybe it does. seems like where a long way to using a true successor to win xp.
    XP was unmaintainable - why else start over? XP might of been a very well patched codebase (lord knows it wasn't brilliant on the release and had six years of patching) but it doesn't mean it wasn't a creaking old betty in need of a bullet through the brain.
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    Re: News - AMD expects Microsoft's Windows 7 to launch in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    A number of seminars I have been to recently have been mentioning "the next version of windows" and implying that its aimed at "clouds".....which makes some sense as its fast becoming the biggest buzzword in IT at the moment.
    clouds are certainly (forgive the pun) on the horizon but 7 is definitely going to be a desktop orientated OS imho. Sure, there might be more facility for it built in but I don't think they'll shift the whole of Windows onto the internet quite yet!
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    Re: News - AMD expects Microsoft's Windows 7 to launch in 2009

    im still wondering why we needed XP? didnt it do everything needed, or was it upgraded for the sake of upgrading?

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    Re: News - AMD expects Microsoft's Windows 7 to launch in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by shaffaaf27 View Post
    im still wondering why we needed XP?
    You're right. It still baffles me why we bothered to move down from the trees frankly.

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    Re: News - AMD expects Microsoft's Windows 7 to launch in 2009

    FYI i have been on vista 64 since july last year, but im still wondering why we moved on, was there something XP couldnt do?

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    Re: News - AMD expects Microsoft's Windows 7 to launch in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by shaffaaf27 View Post
    fyi i have been on vista 64 since july last year, but im still wondering why we moved on, was there something xp couldnt do?
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    Re: News - AMD expects Microsoft's Windows 7 to launch in 2009

    Oh god. Please, let's not start this all over again.

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    Re: News - AMD expects Microsoft's Windows 7 to launch in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by Platinum View Post
    dx10
    dx11 is coming out too http://www.extremetech.com/article2/....asp:eek::eek:

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    Re: News - AMD expects Microsoft's Windows 7 to launch in 2009

    DirectX 11 will be available for Vista as well.

    Seems Microsoft are keeping the reasons to upgrade from Vista at a minimum.
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    Re: News - AMD expects Microsoft's Windows 7 to launch in 2009

    so just dx10..... yet dx10 games are what either 0, or patched, or bioshock?

    even crysis, it can easily be hacked, though its not fully dx10.

    im not complaining per say, just wondering. i built a new system last year, so i bought vista for it, though i would have easily been happy with XP. though i wouldnt upgrade to vista from XP on a current XP machine, becuase truely there is no reason.

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    Re: News - AMD expects Microsoft's Windows 7 to launch in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by Fraz View Post
    Oh god. Please, let's not start this all over again.
    Oh, but we must. Get ready for all the people saying they're not going to 7 because Vista works fine for them. Rinse and repeat.

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    DirectX 11 will be available for Vista as well.

    Seems Microsoft are keeping the reasons to upgrade from Vista at a minimum.
    I think we're a long way off being able to draw such a conclusion - i never discount an OS without trying it. I'm happy to upgrade an OS once per three years - if the price is right..

    Quote Originally Posted by shaffaaf27 View Post
    so just dx10..... yet dx10 games are what either 0, or patched, or bioshock?

    even crysis, it can easily be hacked, though its not fully dx10.
    DX10 won't run on XP period. Crysis as it turned out was DX9 all the way - it just disabled some of it's functionality on non-Vista systems. It was all about politics and nothing to do with the technical nature of the engine.
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    Re: News - AMD expects Microsoft's Windows 7 to launch in 2009

    dangle, yes i do know that, i am not arguing against vista, i love it i use it, and i will move to windows 7 asap, as i like newer things, i am just saying practially, was there a need to make a new OS when XP could do everything needed?

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    Re: News - AMD expects Microsoft's Windows 7 to launch in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by dangel View Post
    I think we're a long way off being able to draw such a conclusion - i never discount an OS without trying it. I'm happy to upgrade an OS once per three years - if the price is right..
    For me personally I can say with a good 90% certainty that I can draw that conclusion now.

    As others have said "Why upgrade from XP, it does everything I want?"....while that is true to some extent, the few things that got me to upgrade were pretty big for me and I fail to see how they will add anything quite that big in W7.

    The bloat: Vista will still be fairly new and bloat-free from patches come w7 release
    Proper 64bit support: hands-down the biggest feature of vista that got me to upgrade
    DirectX10: Turned out to be a bit of a lemon so far and they state DX11 will be Vista compatible anyway

    I can take or leave the UI changes (in fact, I detest the ribbon menus so there is absolutely no chance that feature is going to make me part with cash) plus I am not really interesting in any clouding or rent-an-app features they might implement.

    Really unsure what they could possibly add to entice me....unless of course they pull some massive performance optimisations out of their backsides, which I highly doubt.
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    Re: News - AMD expects Microsoft's Windows 7 to launch in 2009

    look lads vista is crap. xp is god. end of discussion. ta ta


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    Re: News - AMD expects Microsoft's Windows 7 to launch in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    For me personally I can say with a good 90&#37; certainty that I can draw that conclusion now.

    As others have said "Why upgrade from XP, it does everything I want?"....while that is true to some extent, the few things that got me to upgrade were pretty big for me and I fail to see how they will add anything quite that big in W7.

    The bloat: Vista will still be fairly new and bloat-free from patches come w7 release
    Proper 64bit support: hands-down the biggest feature of vista that got me to upgrade
    DirectX10: Turned out to be a bit of a lemon so far and they state DX11 will be Vista compatible anyway

    I can take or leave the UI changes (in fact, I detest the ribbon menus so there is absolutely no chance that feature is going to make me part with cash) plus I am not really interesting in any clouding or rent-an-app features they might implement.

    Really unsure what they could possibly add to entice me....unless of course they pull some massive performance optimisations out of their backsides, which I highly doubt.
    I think performance may well figure into it more than you think - certainily the political pressure inside MS on the dev teams is pushing them that way. The W7 blog provides plenty of interesting clues along these lines. W7 *has* to be faster out of the box - not necessarily because Vista is slow (it isn't for me anyway) but because there's a perception of bloat in the media. That's probably why we're seeing them strip apps out of the OS and offer them as downloads - well that and the fact that the download route allows them to offer more up to date versions. For now, the downloaded apps are free and i've yet to see any signs of CC related ambitions (for W7).

    Will that 10% uncertainty let you view W7 with an open mind? I think like nVidia (who've also taked and swift kick to the nadgers recently) we're going to see MS come back much stronger with W7. They've already taken the heat for the new driver model (which was much needed) in Vista - easily the root cause of most of the complaints about the current OS. A tighter, slicker, more refined W7 could well be very attractive to most - and for the majority they'll get it anyway with their OEM PC as per normal. Resistance is futile after all..

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    Re: News - AMD expects Microsoft's Windows 7 to launch in 2009

    I will certainly look at it, I am inquisitive like that and will have an open mind.

    It's as I said though, unless it provides a noticeable performance increase in areas that effect me, I cannot think of anything they could possibly entice me with.

    I would love to be proved wrong and only time will tell but this is Microsoft we are talking about and they are normally fast to hype anything new and radical, which makes me think there is nothing new and radical coming.
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