News - AMD's new Phenom X4 processors promise sky-high speeds. Should Intel be worrie

[cleaverlch]

Not really. Unless all of them produce x86 processors, you'll have a nightmare getting all of your software to work.

[aidanjt]

Not really. Unless all of them produce x86 processors, you'll have a nightmare getting all of your software to work.

No, just no.

[DDY]

Why there only two major manufacturers, why not like 10 or more that would be even better for consumers.

Because they'll end up buying each other.

[pow1983]

Why there only two major manufacturers, why not like 10 or more that would be even better for consumers.

As AMD have been demonstrating over the past year the cost involved is too huge for companies to just jump in willy nilly and create chips which may or may not work well. It would do wonders for Intel's business though.
AMD have been chasing Intel since they joined in the x86 race and havn't got very close to them.

Don't forget little VIA, which nVidia have a small interest in. They've targetted some smaller markets like POS where they have succeeded very well and SFF PC's. In one major case they have done a cheeky back hander and managed to convince Toshiba to change their top range POS from Intel to VIA. AMD is completely absent from the POS market.

IMHO AMD wont be here in 2 years if they keep up their current efforts. Missing out on key markets is really bad management. The only brands going for them at the moment is Opteron and ATi.

[aidanjt]

AMD is completely absent from the POS market.

Incorrect, AMD has extremely lightweight boards that are very flexible.

[DDY]

AMD is completely absent from the POS market.

I don't know where you get your facts from but you are very wrong.

AMD Geode

[Hicks12]

AMD have been on top before AFAIK, the old Athlon cpu's were better in clock/performance ration compared to Pentium 4's and along with the x2 was better than the Pentium D's and now they lost it to core 2, they can get back if they work at it. If they can bring these 3ghz quads at a decent price then they would of won id think.

[Biscuit]

AMD have been chasing Intel since they joined in the x86 race and havn't got very close to them.

Did you miss out the whole 754 and 939 stage or something?

Your entire statement is plagued with error but i cudnt refrain from bringing this to your attention.

[Nailz]

The X2's and Athlon 64's compared to the Prescott's ect...... I think there may be a fanboy or two in here.

I started out back in the day with a 100mhz Intel P1... nothing special.

Then moved onto a PII 400Mhz megadrive cartridge (someone correct me on socket type!)

Then onto an 800Mhz PIII.... wow what a difference.......

Then along came... AMD! My next chip was an Athlon XP 2500+..... I was the dogs danglies. I had one with blown bridges so when you upped the FSB it got detected as a 3200+

After that I went to an AMD Athlon64 3000+ Clawhammer.... once again ran very cool and very good performance.

Then took the plunge into an Athlon X2 4600+. Ran a beauty.

Then..... the day came where the benchmarks spoke for themselves. Now I'm running a Intel Q6600 overlocked to 3.6Ghz on air.

It's all about whoever gets it right.... and at the moment.... Intel have it bang on. I will never become a fanboy.... the benchmarks always speak the truth! At the time of my next upgrade I can't say whether it will be AMD or Intel.... depends what gets pulled out of the bag.

[badass]

Badass quoting badass?

If AMD go under then that's the end of an x86 competitor - the license can't be transfered to any new owner. End result will be more expensive processors.

It was supposed to be an edit.

In the license fron, if there's a will, there's a way. If AMD go bust they'll get bought for $1 and hen accountants and lawyers will get involved and someone will still compete with intel using the license that AMD got.

[MadduckUK]

Then moved onto a PII 400Mhz megadrive cartridge (someone correct me on socket type!)

slot 1!

[[GSV]Trig]

Ahhh, good old Slot 1, another instance of Intel saying one thing and then doing something else...

[pow1983]

I don't know where you get your facts from but you are very wrong.

AMD Geode

AMD may have had an offering in the POS market but no one was willing to take them up. Toshiba, HP, PC-POS, Aures, Epson..... to name but a few of the most popular POS hardware brands all designed and still design Intel or Via based systems.

The Geode failed because no one wanted the technology, they even closed the Geode offices.
The final Geode was based on an Athlon XP in some desperate hope that they would sell some.

AMD are fairly well absent from the POS market at the moment.

The lack of serial ports on the geode wont have done them any favours. The POS market is still heavily flooded with serial based peripherals.

[aidanjt]

AMD may have had an offering in the POS market but no one was willing to take them up. Toshiba, HP, PC-POS, Aures, Epson..... to name but a few of the most popular POS hardware brands all designed and still design Intel or Via based systems.

The Geode failed because no one wanted the technology, they even closed the Geode offices.
The final Geode was based on an Athlon XP in some desperate hope that they would sell some.

AMD are fairly well absent from the POS market at the moment.

The lack of serial ports on the geode wont have done them any favours. The POS market is still heavily flooded with serial based peripherals.

Of course Geode 'has serial support', most of the board vendors put serial chips on their boards, why do you insist in talking about something you know nothing about?

The technology is sound, it's fully x86, it's cheap, it has netboot support, it has serial support, and it's more than enough to power a PoS terminal.

[DDY]

AMD is completely absent from the POS market.

AMD are fairly well absent from the POS market at the moment.

AMD must be doing well if they've managed that over the weekend.

[pow1983]

AMD must be doing well if they've managed that over the weekend.

I can't find any current POS models available to buy with an AMD chip in it. Let me know what you find that isn't a desktop PC.

The Geode has 1 serial PORT not PORT(S).