News - Xbox 360 Valhalla chipset pictured, sparks rumours of a slim Microsoft console

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Originally Posted by finlay666

Most people will RMA direct to the manufacturer so your experience isnt really that relevant. Usually for convenience of not having to go into a store and then RMA through the usual methods

Just look at the MS position, you do it all online to arrange an RMA on a RROD 360.

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I'd say its relevant.

If most people go direct then that applies to both PS3 & the 360, making that assumption you can therefore only assume the same % of people 'go direct' so the levels of returns to store (as a %) are the same for both consoles?

I'd say (IMO) that the 360 returns process is arguably more well known so that should actually mean the same % of consoles are returned to store but a higher % returned to the manufacturer direct = higher % of failed 360 than even Cozwin saw.

The fact is the 360 (in total inclusing ALL revisions) is more prone to failure than the PS3 (incl ALL revisions ie the new 'less failure prone' Slim)
MS have sorted the initial failures with the Jasper which seems to be pretty reliable but we just can't make sense of the figures as both consoles have so many variants we don't know if it's an old/new console failing.

I'd imagine MS have put a LOT of effort into the reliability of any new console (whether this is the mobo or not they most certainly have one in development) & as an ex-360/current PS3 owner I'd be very interested in a slim 360.

I think the PS3 has had the biggest fail though a few weeks back eh ? xD
Depending on where they may or may not go with this I would be interested in getting one.

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Originally Posted by Terbinator

I think the PS3 has had the biggest fail though a few weeks back eh ? xD
Depending on where they may or may not go with this I would be interested in getting one.

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Haha probably very true :mrgreen: although we don't know totals & it didn't require a 2 week repair process! If I'd been affected I'd have probably just turned it off for a day, no-biggy!
Shoddy, shoddy mistake that one, whoever 'overlooked' the fact a well-known issue with a chip they used could do this needs to be given a slap on the wrist :confused:

I hope MS put something extra into a 'Slim' to make me want one, if it's just a small 360 then no chance I'd part with my cash. It looks like this won't even have WiFi integrated, FFS give us something (apart from Natal) to push us to buy one!

If you actually want to play online properly you wouldn't consider WIFI.

By all means I would say the that more 360 are failing than PS3's, but is does seem that many of the early PS3's are failing now.

Also the length of warrenty will have an impact on the amount of returns, A 360 breaks after 2 years you will see it, I PS3 after 2 years won't get seen.

I know a couple of people who just binned there PS3's when they got the YLOD, as it is they have followed me into true HD gaming (also know as PC gaming).

Eitherway I shrink on this plus Natel could get it under many TV's.

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/03/18/xb...n-2010-update/ Double sided- coin is just that, a plus to some of you 20GB owners no doubt though ?

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Originally Posted by Terbinator

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/03/18/xb...n-2010-update/ Double sided- coin is just that, a plus to some of you 20GB owners no doubt though ?

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That cant to be right?!.. considering the latest arcades have a bit of memory built in now.. and surely having stuff on USB will open up people trying to hack their gamertags for more l33tz gamerscore.