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    Re: Opinions - Where are the DVB-T2 PC tuners?

    The only bit that's unique is the T2 compatible demod, the other two chips (or variants of them) are used in many other USB receivers.

    I think it's small because of the PCB sandwich they've gone for... not sure what affect that will have had on the BoM, however.

    I would just like to point out how spot on my remarks in the opinion piece I wrote were with respect to the required components to build such a device.
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    Re: Opinions - Where are the DVB-T2 PC tuners?

    Oh, and there's more, shipping next month:

    http://shop.blackgold.tv/BGT3620 - Dual tuner!

    Same Sony demods, of course. And not economical if you already have a legacy DVB-T tuner, but it is pretty loaded up in terms of capabilities.
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    Re: Opinions - Where are the DVB-T2 PC tuners?

    some people on the MediaPortal forums have been arguing over the tuners on that one. some think it is dual DVB-T2, some say it's just a single DVB-T and a single T2.

    "dual digital terrestrial including both DVB-T and DVB-T2"

    I think it's the former personally.

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    Re: Opinions - Where are the DVB-T2 PC tuners?

    It's got a pair of Sony CXD2820R demods, as far as I can tell from the full-size shot on that site... compare that pic to the last pic on my page, posted earlier in the thread. That demod can do DVB-S, DVB-T and DVB-T2, and there's two of them...

    No idea what tuners are in the can, and whether only one accepts terrestrial frequencies, but I doubt it - it wouldn't be worth them forking out for two Sony demods otherwise, I wouldn't have thought.
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    Re: Opinions - Where are the DVB-T2 PC tuners?

    Thanks for that Steve, I'll post that over on the MP forums when I get a chance

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    Re: Opinions - Where are the DVB-T2 PC tuners?

    I have one of the Blackgold cards pre-ordered.

    Will post my experience with it when it arrvies. It'll be the first PC tuner I've had for about 12 years.

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    Re: Opinions - Where are the DVB-T2 PC tuners?

    I would be interested to see decent pics of the that card when you get it, if you're willing to provide them. I want to know what controller chip is on it.

    Alas, I don't think any PCIe tuners are supported in Linux, so I can't imagine corroborating data snooped from the blackgold would help me develop a driver.
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    Re: Opinions - Where are the DVB-T2 PC tuners?

    Ooo £90 seems expensive but then it isn't much different to a Freeview HD box i guess.

    On the otherhand, F1 and Wimbledon in HD along with some CL games is very appealing.
    Kalniel: "Nice review Tarinder - would it be possible to get a picture of the case when the components are installed (with the side off obviously)?"
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    for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.

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    Re: Opinions - Where are the DVB-T2 PC tuners?

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    I would be interested to see decent pics of the that card when you get it, if you're willing to provide them. I want to know what controller chip is on it.

    Alas, I don't think any PCIe tuners are supported in Linux, so I can't imagine corroborating data snooped from the blackgold would help me develop a driver.
    Not a problem at all - you might need to remind me however. I have a decent 14mp digitial camera with a good macro mode on it so should be able to get you some good hi-res snaps.

    As you no doubt know, it's expected to ship in December - though I have no idea when.

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    Re: Opinions - Where are the DVB-T2 PC tuners?

    A brief review here: http://usingwindowshomeserver.com/20...tt2-tuner-card

    It does state that both tuers are DVB-T2 which is good for some claification at least, and it does highlight the shortcomings of WMC in this area too.

    I do wonder why the reviewer is getting 103 channels when there are only 4 extra HD channels it should be picking up over the 80 he gets with any other card or his STB. I would have tracked that one down, but he doesn't seem to care. After all, it could be a problem with the BGT3620 that is giving him the extra channels.

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    Re: Opinions - Where are the DVB-T2 PC tuners?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skinleech View Post
    I have one of the Blackgold cards pre-ordered.

    Will post my experience with it when it arrvies. It'll be the first PC tuner I've had for about 12 years.
    welcome back to PC tuner land!

    I've also pre-ordered and will post back as well - although I hear BlackGold's customer support is legendarily thin, so it could be something of a silent wait for it to be arrive. Email is marked "December delivery", and the cards are already appearing in some pre-built (Tranquil) HTPCs, so at least we know they exist.

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    Re: Opinions - Where are the DVB-T2 PC tuners?

    Thanks for the review, Funkstar. Hopefully my card will drop through the post soon, though as carlosp_uk says, the Blackgold site still just lists December delivery.

    I guess the fact they're starting to appear is encouraging. My only issue now is that I'm in a flat, and it's possible the aerial isn't configured to receive Freeview HD broadcasts - I've contacted my factors, but no reply as yet.

    EDIT: Interestingly/annoyingly, this is now on the BG site:

    This product has attracted a huge amount of interest from prospective customers. Taking this onboard, we are now taking pre-orders for delivery in December for our OEM customers. Full retail release and availability to all customers will follow shortly afterwards.
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    Re: Opinions - Where are the DVB-T2 PC tuners?

    If you can get freeview, as far as I know, you shouldn't need anything else aerial wise for Freeview HD, it's all in the card and software not the VHF broadcast level.

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    Re: Opinions - Where are the DVB-T2 PC tuners?

    That's true, unless for some reason the DVB-T2 mux is out of the band your aerial receives, which it isn't likely to if you already get all the other muxes.
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    Re: Opinions - Where are the DVB-T2 PC tuners?

    http://www.freeview.co.uk/freeview/R...want-to-get-HD

    Am going by the info above.

    I'm also fuming with Royal Mail. I've been in all day waiting for delivery of the item (got an email will driver downloads from Blackgold yesterday so queried the delivery date - yesterday they said & gave me the tracking number, but it was delayed no doubt due to weather which is acceptable). I've just checked the tracking number, and they've allegedly tried to deliver at 12:46 today, leaving a card.

    No delivery attempt, no card left, the instructions to follow if you have no card left are to call an 0845 number that's auomated and as asks you for your card details.

    I want to throttle the lot of them.

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    Re: Opinions - Where are the DVB-T2 PC tuners?

    OK, got it earlier today but have yet had time to install & check it out.

    Here's the front of the card, along with a USB stick for size comparison purposes - it's pretty tiny:



    Here's the back:



    Here's the box contents (driver link was emailed to me as I noted earlier):



    Here are the chips on the unit:

    SonyCXD2820R
    N2A47300 -3
    1018



    NXD
    SAA7231GE/1
    P2M846.00
    ESD10181



    Will be installing it once the Missus gets off the HTPC.

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