News - AMD responds to NVIDIA’s image-quality complaints

[HEXUS]

Politely dismisses claims as groundless and believes that quality is ‘on par’.

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[HalloweenJack]

yes because shimmering textures are `on par`....

[Jimbo75]

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon...-6870-review/9

So the difference at default driver setting in-between AMD and NVIDIA is as far as we are concerned NIL.

Just more noise from nVidia.

[HalloweenJack]

the same guru3d that declared AMD to have an amazing win over nvidia - after reviewing the gtx 460/470 using 6 months old drivers against the 68xx with the latest drivers..... objective reviewing it isnt.

[Jimbo75]

Maybe you missed it Jack but most websites found the 6850 beat the 460 and the 6870 was on par with the 470.

[Noxvayl]

the same guru3d that declared AMD to have an amazing win over nvidia - after reviewing the gtx 460/470 using 6 months old drivers against the 68xx with the latest drivers..... objective reviewing it isnt.

What did they clarify as "amazing win" and what are you referring to with that statement?

It is a highly vague phrase which does not mean the same thing to everybody. For example Guru3D might of weighed up the power draw against the performance and price of the GFX cards where you could be interested in only image quality and performance at a specific resolution. Very different criteria for the same classification both providing very different conclusions. Neither of them wrong in case you didn't realise.

You need to accept the criteria taken into account by the reviewer not the criteria you are interested in if you wish to quote a conclusion. You should be able to realise the differences in application between you and a reviewer as well, and not be so narrow minded in your reading of reviews.



I find the spat to be pointless and rather funny. Instead of getting on with their jobs nVidia employees apparently prefer to complain about what AMD are doing. Acting like spoilt brats, just proves that what we call "civilised" is actually very far from it.

[aidanjt]

ExHail++

It really is a juvenile jab from nVidia, they should have better things to do with their time than whining about the competition, founded or not, if nVidia is having problems moving stock, they should be looking closer at their own offerings.

[Zhaoman]

Well if AMD really are dialling down the quality settings to give themselves a benchmark advantage then it's better that they got found out than letting them distort the performance of their cards...

Anyway I'm not surprised one bit tbh. Both companies have done this before and been caught and I'm sure there's probably many more occasions where they've done it and got away with it. Still waiting for 5850 performance to drop to £125...

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Well if AMD really are dialling down the quality settings to give themselves a benchmark advantage then it's better that they got found out than letting them distort the performance of their cards...

Anyway I'm not surprised one bit tbh. Both companies have done this before and been caught and I'm sure there's probably many more occasions where they've done it and got away with it. Still waiting for 5850 performance to drop to £125...

You can get an HD5850 1GB for around £130 if you look around and the HD6850 1GB was around this price at launch.

[crossy]

Pardon my ignorance, but while I see the point of trying to tweak drivers to deliver higher 3DMarks, surely this isn't the only measure that graphics cards are reviewed with? Certainly all the sites I've seen (including Hexus) invariably use one (or more) games programs - albeit apparently in some sort of "benchmark" role.

In which case, even if the latest Radeon is delivering stratospheric 3DMark's, then if it's not delivering on the game-based benchmarks, then any benchmark-suiting tweaks are going to be very obvious. On the other hand (and I'm more than willing to be corrected) if it's also delivering good game-based benchmarks, then surely this performance would carry across to when you're actually playing said games.

Taking this one stage further - surely if you're running Far Cry etc benchmarks and the image quality looks "suspicious" then that's going to get mentioned by any half decent reviewer - or do they just go on the numbers these days?

So, if the Radeon's are delivering good benchmarks, and no-one's complaining about poor image quality, then surely the results obtained are genuine. In which case NVidia is just trying to shift a crate full o' sour grapes.

(I've got a Geforce card paired with AMD processor - so I've no axe to grind for/against either company).

[Zhaoman]

You can get an HD5850 1GB for around £130 if you look around and the HD6850 1GB was around this price at launch.

I suppose christmas is coming up...