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    Re: News - Nokia and Microsoft confirm mobile ecosystem partnership

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    'long ago' they only got started developing it, now it's reached an end-user stable state and they're canning it, that's what's technically refereed to as pissing money down the drain.
    Exactly why they should have cancelled it long ago!

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    Re: News - Nokia and Microsoft confirm mobile ecosystem partnership

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    The problem is what does nokia bring to the party, their maps? They have a very good production facillity for low cost hardware I suppose. But are they really able to churn them out for less than HTC or Samsung?
    While they probably can't churn out the hardware for less, I doubt they'll be paying WP7 license fees. Taking that in to account they might be able to beat the Asian manufacturers on price while maintaining the high quality feel that their handsets have. That can only be good for the Windows Phone brand image.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jedibeeftrix View Post
    removing Meego from their mass-market strategy is a stupid, stupid decision!
    Maybe, maybe not. It all depends if Meego would have succeeded in winning market share or not. The decision over whether or not to run with it was a gamble. If they released it then they'd have to give it time to grow. If it then failed it could potentially have sunk the company, it would have cost them a lot to keep Meego in the market place, keep development going and keep Ovi services online. The route they've chosen certainly has a lower pay off, but a significantly lower risk to go with that.

    Quote Originally Posted by usxhe190 View Post
    I really don't know why Nokia doesn't make multi handsets for various OSs like HTC does???

    If they follow HTC model and just start making good smartphones, they will regain their share market because the Nokia's brand is so much more powerful.
    There's no reason why they can't. The Microsoft deal isn't exclusive, they don't have sole use of Nokia. Right now though I guess they've got enough to handle. They need to get their Meego handset out the door, dissolve Symbian, start work on their contributions to Windows Phone and get some Windows Phone handsets to market.

    Why didn't they decide to just be another OEM instead? I'm not sure we'll ever get the exact reasons, but I'm sure Nokia are being paid/compensated for their work on and commitment to Windows Phone 7 for however long it lasts. The focus needs to be on returning to growth and profitability, protecting future market share etc. The Microsoft deal must have made the most sense in this context.

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    Re: News - Nokia and Microsoft confirm mobile ecosystem partnership

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    Exactly why they should have cancelled it long ago!
    Why? There's nothing wrong with developing a mobile user interface.
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    Re: News - Nokia and Microsoft confirm mobile ecosystem partnership

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    Why? There's nothing wrong with developing a mobile user interface.
    There is if the larger part of the world doesnt give a crap and your gunna end up canning it anyway. Tell me you didnt see this coming/if it did come it would have been rubbish and failed alongside its competition.

    I did

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    Re: News - Nokia and Microsoft confirm mobile ecosystem partnership

    It's not all about Meego. It's about the entire Nokia ecosystem. They've fallen too far behind across the board and don't really have the funds to try catching up (they've got the funds to catch up, but only if the attempt is successful). You can't have a successful smartphone OS without the ecosystem to back it up. Apple have iTunes and MobileMe, Google have... Google, Microsoft have Windows Live and Zune. If you don't have these things you wind up like Palm, you fail to make a real market for yourself and slowly go broke. Nobody quite knows if HP can salvage them yet, but they've certainly got the funds (unlike Nokia) to try.

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    Re: News - Nokia and Microsoft confirm mobile ecosystem partnership

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    There is if the larger part of the world doesnt give a crap and your gunna end up canning it anyway. Tell me you didnt see this coming/if it did come it would have been rubbish and failed alongside its competition.

    I did
    Did I see Nokia hiring a Microsoft stooge as CEO and being turned into Microsoft's mobile arm just as Meego nears market fitness? No, can't say I did see that one coming. Good play on the part of Microsoft.
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    Re: News - Nokia and Microsoft confirm mobile ecosystem partnership

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    Did I see Nokia hiring a Microsoft stooge as CEO and being turned into Microsoft's mobile arm just as Meego nears market fitness? No, can't say I did see that one coming. Good play on the part of Microsoft.
    No, i dont think anyone really saw that exact move coming. I was reffering more to Meego flumping, it was so obvious. See McPhees post, explains it pretty well.

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    Re: News - Nokia and Microsoft confirm mobile ecosystem partnership

    The problem was Meego was costing a lot of money and going practically no were.

    Lots of internal software projects go tits up just because the wrong people are running them, I'd hazard a guess this was happening at Nokia whilst I've not seen any Meego figures, the amount they spent on R&D recently, they've delivered nothing new with it.

    So I think the idea of buying one in makes sense.

    But as to why they didn't pick Andriod I don't know, Android currently lacks a decent music platform and streaming service. There are too many components which just don't provide a good end to end experience that the iPhone had almost from day 1 (not the streaming bit!). I'm amazed Nokia didn't just go in claiming to be the multimedia platform, maps and music type thing.

    Also Nokia have the pockets to really develop their own layer on Android because lets be honest the default UI isn't going to win a customer over.
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