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    News - Crucial pushes SSD price boundaries

    Refurbished RealSSD C300 SSDs tear up the pricing rule book.
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    Re: News - Crucial pushes SSD price boundaries

    30 day warranty. Little bit scary. You'd think they'd have more confidence in the stock...
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    Re: News - Crucial pushes SSD price boundaries

    If it wasn't for the 30 day warranty, I'd have bought one already.

    Still tempted by the 256GB one though.. would be a nice space boost over my 80GB X25-M

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    Re: News - Crucial pushes SSD price boundaries

    Certainly cheaper than they used to be but the price per GB isn't everything, it's common sense to look for performance not just the capacity. The read/write is not as good value by now. and limiting to 1 per person puts an end to any RAID setups ...

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    Re: News - Crucial pushes SSD price boundaries

    120GB SSD NEW - £130 inc. del
    Crucial Refurbished SSD - £93 incl. del

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    Re: News - Crucial pushes SSD price boundaries

    Quote Originally Posted by cheesemp View Post
    30 day warranty. Little bit scary. You'd think they'd have more confidence in the stock...
    30 days warranty means they want shot of these units knowing full well they have issues, but are trying to make some money of them.

    Personally think this is Crucial screwing people over in an attempt to shift some dodgy units.

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    Re: News - Crucial pushes SSD price boundaries

    its worth noting that these are synchronous nand as opposed to asynchronous there is quite a difference betweeen the two its explained here
    http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/...asynchronous/2


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    Re: News - Crucial pushes SSD price boundaries

    Which is.. better?

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    Re: News - Crucial pushes SSD price boundaries

    Quote Originally Posted by danroyle View Post
    its worth noting that these are synchronous nand as opposed to asynchronous there is quite a difference betweeen the two its explained here
    http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/...asynchronous/2
    This was brought up in another thread the other day.

    After doing much reading, the difference between two equal drives other than the synchronous and Asynchronous NAND is an average 30% performance drop in worse case scenario for the synchronous drive. But considering the speeds these drive operate at (SATA 3), the drop in performance in these worse case scenarios is not noticeable for the average user. Its all numbers in charts and graphs, but for the average user there us unlikely to be any difference.

    Also I think that the drives Crucial are offering used to come with 3 year warranty. These drives should still be under their original warranty....

    I really think Crucial are trying to shift dodgy units.

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    Re: News - Crucial pushes SSD price boundaries

    In that review linked to, synchronous wins all the time - very significantly so, in places.

    Plus, the Vertex is a more premium product than the Agility (and it was described that the vertex uses synchronous and the agility asynchronous).

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    Re: News - Crucial pushes SSD price boundaries

    You'll find though that is real world use you'll not notice the difference. Loading times of apps, games and windows is the same. Considering most use their SSD for these three purposes, most people will not care about these benchmark results.

    Its kinda like comparing a RS focus against a standard focus on a race around a 30mph village. ;-)

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    Re: News - Crucial pushes SSD price boundaries

    Quote Originally Posted by miniyazz View Post
    In that review linked to, synchronous wins all the time - very significantly so, in places.

    Plus, the Vertex is a more premium product than the Agility (and it was described that the vertex uses synchronous and the agility asynchronous).
    thats pretty much it in a nutshell the higher end ssds use synchronous and cheaper one like agility and solid and so on use the slower ones.


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    Re: News - Crucial pushes SSD price boundaries

    Well, it's not like you're buying these of E-Bay, there coming straight from Crucial so you will be able to go straight back to them and there's no third party online shop getting in the way either. If there's some problem with a large number of them then they'll have to recall them. In addition you have a drive with updated and proven firmware, unlike some of the newer drives. I expect these are faulty drives with replaced chipsets or upgraded enterprise drives. It's likely that the NAND will have fewer write cycles left available than if bought new but we're not likely to wear these drives out before wanting to replace them anyway.

    Crucial have always been pretty good to me in the past an at a £200 discount mine's in the post already!

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    Re: News - Crucial pushes SSD price boundaries

    Quote Originally Posted by Brewster0101 View Post
    You'll find though that is real world use you'll not notice the difference. Loading times of apps, games and windows is the same. Considering most use their SSD for these three purposes, most people will not care about these benchmark results.

    Its kinda like comparing a RS focus against a standard focus on a race around a 30mph village. ;-)
    You seem to missing the most important metric though. The drive with asynchronous NAND and a SandForce SF2281 controller showed very large performance drop-offs as TRIM was enabled and the drive was filled with data. Almost all reviews test SSDs with the drives empty or or in many cases with TRIM not even enabled. At the very least anyone is going to have their SSD 25% to 50% full.
    Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 25-08-2011 at 06:00 PM.

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    Re: News - Crucial pushes SSD price boundaries

    Damn those pints

    Just ordered one based on the hope that if they do turn out to be a dodgy batch then the onus will be on Crucial to prove they weren't rather than the other way round
    Gotta love EU law.. although I'm not sure how it works in the case of refurbs.. but if it's the same as normal then as long as it's in the first year I'm fine even if no-one else's fails!

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    Re: News - Crucial pushes SSD price boundaries

    Just bought the 256GB one - gah, what have I done!?

    Nah hopefully will be fine. Now I just need to order that Acer 3830TG lappy so I have something to install this drive into

    Would have got a smaller one but unless the lappy has mSATA, can't have a seperate HDD so this was too good an opportunity to get a large SSD on the cheap...

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