News - Could Haswell be Intel’s last range of swappable CPUs?

[Willzzz]

I would like to see maybe up to Core i3 BGA.

But isn't the i3 the only CPU that anyone is likely to upgrade?
I mean no-one who owns a 2500k bothered to upgrade to Ivy right?

[Meowmatt]

tbh i cant see this effecting that many people considering everyone i know always gets a new mobo regardless and most new cpus require a new chipset anyway

[Lorcaran]

Not necessarily, how often do you hear of a PC failing because the socket just stopped working?

Not sure I mentioned anything about sockets? I did mention components and a socket is a component of course but that taking something that's not critical function baring the CPU socket (which is being removed if you use a surface mount CPU). I was getting at major components like IC's but that's okay.

My point was that you generally would send just the motherboard back if a component on it failed. If a Surface Mount CPU dies or has issues then you are still sending back one board but it's effectively two components (read CPU and motherboard). That has a knock on effect on logistics for repair and servicing (do i have that board with that CPU?), let alone stock control for most suppliers.

I doubt that Intel will go mass surface mount and use this for smaller low powered CPU's and the more powerful units will still be socket based.

Something like the NUC would be a good example where a surface mount CPU would work really well, a semi disposable computer if you like.

[loyal986]

Never Cared more or less about Intel, all I care is AMD, I like what they do, cheap and stable, I don't need crushing numbers, all I need is stable PC that can do everything and that can be upgraded in future, and AMD gave me this oportunity. What can an Intel User do that I can't with my Athlon II x4 at 3.0Ghz with 4 Mb cache? Happy and cannot complain, cost me 56 Euro The procesor, and I could buy an Intel Pentium Dual Core with this money that was 2.7 or 2.8 don't remember. I think I won in this one. I will keap supporting AMD till they keap caring about us that pay for they products.

[Zeven]

Never Cared more or less about Intel, all I care is AMD, I like what they do, cheap and stable, I don't need crushing numbers, all I need is stable PC that can do everything and that can be upgraded in future, and AMD gave me this oportunity. What can an Intel User do that I can't with my Athlon II x4 at 3.0Ghz with 4 Mb cache? Happy and cannot complain, cost me 56 Euro The procesor, and I could buy an Intel Pentium Dual Core with this money that was 2.7 or 2.8 don't remember. I think I won in this one. I will keap supporting AMD till they keap caring about us that pay for they products.

I have not yet come across an Intel fan who likes Intel for the same reasons as you and many other AMD fans like AMD. May just jump on the AMD bandwagon down the line to support the underdog and what appears to be the less evil company.

[Willzzz]

Yeah, I really don't understand people that have this no questions asked brand loyalty.

Sure if you only need a lower spec processor then AMD have plenty of good options in that space. But it makes no sense to ignore Intel simply out of 'loyalty' to AMD.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I have not yet come across an Intel fan who likes Intel for the same reasons as you and many other AMD fans like AMD. May just jump on the AMD bandwagon down the line to support the underdog and what appears to be the less evil company.

You have not obviously been on some other forums!

In that sense,Hexus is pretty good.

[watercooled]

Latest from SA, apparently Intel now plan to do away with allowing discrete GPUs. Possibly more info here: http://technewspedia.com/rumor-intel...edicated-gpus/

There's nothing really 'interesting' about ditching a load of PCIe bandwidth, it's the obvious way to do it, but not likely to be as simple as that IMO, PCIe is used for a lot more than just GPUs and considering CPU performance makes little difference to gaming, anyone with half a brain cell would happily go with an AMD system. Rather than trying to reduce their competitors' profits, they'd likely just throw away a sizeable chunk of their reputation and market share.

I think all this SoC, 'no more sockets' stuff has been taken way out of context...