News - Rumour: AMD to unleash the Centurion - FX at 5GHz

[mojothejester]

It's a good thing, enthusiasts will buy it, and if it is a great chip then it'll be a good starting place for following generation of chips. hopefully amd can bring the fight back to Intel :-)

[Biscuit]

It still comes out the box at 4.2GHz, they're just guaranteeing that it will do 5GHz. Which is ridiculous as many 8350s will do 5GHz on air anyway.

Yeah we need a source for a claim like that, ether that or you need some new glasses

[cheesyboy]

AMD have needed a proper flagship CPU to sex-up the lineup a bit. Pleased to see this, even if it is just a top-binned standard chip.

ps.
Nice exclusive from Hexus. Can't see this being reported elsewhere currently.

[Ragga]

It would be interesting to see how many units of this AMD could sell :/, not sure if it would have the same performance as an overclocked 4,6,8300 series at 5Jhz

[Hardware_Elite]

The reason they are shooting for 5GHz stock is to get more people on board with the idea the chips are better for gaming. They're not better but actually on par. But that's not all. Intel's chips are a lot more efficient, meaning that Intel's advertised 3.2 GHz would be faster than AMD's advertised 3.8 - 4.2 GHz. AMD is fine for gaming but the fact that a quad core i5 will blaze an octa-core is hilarious. There's a reason to spend more money on Intel, but hey, whatever, opinions right.

[Jimbo75]

The reason they are shooting for 5GHz stock is to get more people on board with the idea the chips are better for gaming. They're not better but actually on par. But that's not all. Intel's chips are a lot more efficient, meaning that Intel's advertised 3.2 GHz would be faster than AMD's advertised 3.8 - 4.2 GHz. AMD is fine for gaming but the fact that a quad core i5 will blaze an octa-core is hilarious. There's a reason to spend more money on Intel, but hey, whatever, opinions right.

It has nothing to do with efficiency - the problem is the vast majority games are only using 2-2.5 cores so most of AMD's extra cores are lying around doing nothing much. If all games were fully using 8 cores the 8350 would murder the 3570K in most of them.

Intel is (a lot) more efficient in terms of power consumption however, but that's more to do with their process advantage, 22nm vs 32nm.

[kingpotnoodle]

AMD realises that a halo product is useful, even if it doesn't sell in massive quantities.

There will be people who will want to brag about having a 5GHz computer with eight cores too.

Which in eBay seller speak means "L@@K 40GHZ !!11!!!! CPU" (bad units and the super annoying @@ thing intentional)

[cheesyboy]

It has nothing to do with efficiency - the problem is the vast majority games are only using 2-2.5 cores so most of AMD's extra cores are lying around doing nothing much. If all games were fully using 8 cores the 8350 would murder the 3570K in most of them.

Exactly. Need we remind ourselves of what we saw with multi-core optimised Crysis 3?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...EL-left-behind

[watercooled]

There are many games where far cheaper offerings from AMD outperform Intel's CPUs - plenty of games are now well-threaded. Clock speed is an utterly meaningless number by itself and has been for a long time now. There are better places than Hexus to troll, just FYI.

Edit: Oops, missed a few posts there.

Further, as has been covered numerous times on these forums, and proved elsewhere, CPU game benchmarks are often badly flawed and overly biased towards lightly/single-threaded CPU performance. Presumably, it's assumed these results scale perfectly up to playable resolutions and settings, but this is often not the case.

Also bear in mind, a 3570k is what, £170? A 6300 costs about 110, a 8350 about 155, both match or exceed the i5 in many newer games, even beating the £260 3770k in some. And that's ignoring motherboard cost and features.

The dual-core Intel CPUs aren't really worth bothering with for modern games.

Hmm, it seems I was wrong about the 3570k pricing, it's actually >£180 now.

[zaph0d]

Bear in mind, with both the Nextbox720 and Profitstation 4 both using 8core Amd APU's that games will be heavily optimised for true multi-core and x86-64.
PC <-> Console ports will be much simpler so we'll get more games on the PC that run with similar resource levels to the consoles as opposed to now where the games require 4-8 times the power due to lazy port coding.

With this in mind the Centurion may just Rule gaming from Autumn onwards.

[zap117]

or you could just buy a <$200 cpu and overclock it to 5GHz...

[Willzzz]

Also bear in mind, a 3570k is what, £170? A 6300 costs about 110, a 8350 about 155, both match or exceed the i5 in many newer games, even beating the £260 3770k in some. And that's ignoring motherboard cost and features.

Which games?

A gamer on a budget is best off with an i5 3470 or similar. Cheaper and faster than an 8350.

[watercooled]

Have you been following any related Hexus threads recently, or actually understand my post?

[iamlorro]

This so-called Centurion is guaranteed to run at 5GHz, on air

That's very impressive technology - Intel CPU's still require electri

Surprised that more isn't being made of that! [/sarcasm]

[keithwalton]

Such a shame really that amd are down so much on clock for clock and core for core. It's needed though as where has ivy-bridge extreme got to, nevermind haswell extreme!
Intels fastest cpus are sandybridge based and haven't really changed for 18 months now

[Biscuit]

Which games?

A gamer on a budget is best off with an i5 3470 or similar. Cheaper and faster than an 8350.

Eh? That's not accurate at all. Gamers are better with a 6300 and a 970 board if budgets are tight and they are playing more modern games.