The 670 has nowhere to go in the current line up, since it beats a 760 (which nvidia won't like to publicise), and at regular price it's not cheap enough next to the 770. They're obviously making it EOL to clear the stock, despite it still being a better card than the 760.
I'd not consider this MSI model though (unless you're watercooling) when a factory overclocked Asus with a high end cooler is just £10 more.
Sounds like a good deal, but I'll hold on until I really need to upgrade, since I reckon once the next-gen consoles are released, requirements will start to increase alot for new games.
Than the 670 you compared it to ....Originally Posted by Spreadie
As per Scan's prices today, where the 760 models were £250-255, compared to the £180 670 in the title..... but the 760 is very different to the 670; inasmuch as one can be, being based on the same archecture
But that only applies if you know or care what's released since you bought.
Let me put it this way. I buy something, be it a graphics card, tablet, camera or food processor. I then have a tool that does the job I bought it for. And as long as it continues to do that job, I don't care if a Titan, or a new Magimix food processor, or a new Canon DSLR body is released. So, I have a Kenwood Chef mixer. It wasn't cheap, but it's still in service, and we bought it, IIRC, in 1976-ish. Kenwood have, it's fair to say, released a fair few new models in that time.
One of my PC's was originally Pentium 550 dual processor. It now has dual 900Mhz chips. It is, shall we say, a tad out of date, but it still does the job I ask of it.
I'm about to buy a new power drill. I have my eye on a nice Makita brushless model. It's replacing a B&Q cheapie I bought about 15 years ago, and the only reason is that the battery died and is tricky to replace, so I'm upgrading the drill, and the battery from NiCad to Li-Ion.
Once I've bought that drill, I really don't give a hoot what new drills Makita, or anyone else, release, because until it dies or no longer does what I want of it, it's a tool to do a job, and if it does it, it does it.
And that's my logic for computer bits, including graphics cards. Buying the right card, perhaps a little better than I need right now may well put off the day when I need to buy again. And, as I'm not an avid gamer, I feel no need to buy the latest game, or to play it at max settings.
The strategy, certainly for me, is certainly achievable. And cost-effective.
Kinda wish I had waited a little longer, I would have picked one up.
Still happy with my 7950 though... For now
The 760s launched at £200 and start at £195 on Scan, so I'm still confused. Admittedly, it doesn't take much to confuse me.
Those examples are fine, if the years pass without ever demanding better performance from those machines. That's hardly the case with GPUs and gaming. You may not be a gamer, but this thread is discussing the relative merits and value of gaming GPUs.But that only applies if you know or care what's released since you bought.
Let me put it this way. I buy something, be it a graphics card, tablet, camera or food processor. I then have a tool that does the job I bought it for. And as long as it continues to do that job, I don't care if a Titan, or a new Magimix food processor, or a new Canon DSLR body is released. So, I have a Kenwood Chef mixer. It wasn't cheap, but it's still in service, and we bought it, IIRC, in 1976-ish. Kenwood have, it's fair to say, released a fair few new models in that time.
One of my PC's was originally Pentium 550 dual processor. It now has dual 900Mhz chips. It is, shall we say, a tad out of date, but it still does the job I ask of it.
I'm about to buy a new power drill. I have my eye on a nice Makita brushless model. It's replacing a B&Q cheapie I bought about 15 years ago, and the only reason is that the battery died and is tricky to replace, so I'm upgrading the drill, and the battery from NiCad to Li-Ion.
Once I've bought that drill, I really don't give a hoot what new drills Makita, or anyone else, release, because until it dies or no longer does what I want of it, it's a tool to do a job, and if it does it, it does it.
No, I think you're unconfused this time.
Yesterday, I did a search on Scan, selected Nvidia and the the 760, and got THREE results, £250.51 to £254.11, averaging about £252.
But .... the screen didn't draw properly on this tablet, and instead of the normal window to select from, I got basically window-less list down the left, each option having a check-box. This has happened two or three times with Scan in the last week or two, and while I can't understand wht that should affect the results of the filtering, it appears it did. The same process now, but getting the proper window selection for the Nvidia models shows about 20 cards starting, as you said, at about £195. I haven't done a comparison (clocks, memory, specs, performance, etc) to see where in that £195 - £255 price range the £180 670 in the title would fit, but if it's at the lower end, then a £15 saving is a very different situation to a £70 saving.
"Not a gamer"?
Okay, it's not quite that simple.
My brother isn't a gamer. I doubt he's played much more than solitaire on a PC and if he's ever bought a PC game it would, first, surprise me, and second, no doubt be the exception not the rule.
Then there's the other end of the spectrum, people who play games every waking hour, ruin their social lives and perhaps lose their job from addiction. And at a slightly less extreme level, those for whom gaming is primarily what the PC is for, and that will spec their machine right up to the maximum that their budget will allow.
I'm in-between my brother and that latter high-spec'er.
I started pkaying computer games on an IBM mainframe in the late '60's. Wrote some small games for a DEC mainframe in the mid 70-'s, and bought an Apple II in large part, at least initially, for gaming, in the late 70's.
And if I stacked my boxed PC games one on top of the other it would, literally, be floor to ceiling, several times. I've not counted, but it must run into hundreds of games. And thousands of pounds. And I have, in the past, gone for gaming graphics boards that were, quite literally, the best and fastest money could buy, at that time.
But these days, not so much. First, the imposition of many forms of DRM I find obnoxious, and am NOT parting with my money for games that require, for instance, Steam. Or EA, Origin etc, equivalents.
Second, while I enjoy games as much as I ever did, it's not (for me) all about graphics quality. So, I'm not after the best graphics that I can get, but graphics that are good enough for me to enjoy the game, and if I have to give up fancy lighting, reflections in water etc, oh well.
So, I'm a gamer but not a fanatical one. I'd buy a card at £180, or £280, if I felt I was getting, for me, value for money. What I won't do, any more, is upgrade every time the latest, greatest card hits the market. That, for me, is a mug's game and I've wised up .... though it took me long enough. A major part of value for money, for me, is longevity. So I'd pay more for a card I felt was going to last longer because, if you like, the cost per month or year was lower. It's all about getting a tool that does the job, at the lowest cost consistent with it still doing the job.
And I'd bet there's a LOT of people like me that will pay that sort of money for a decent card, but either won't or can't upgrade it every time something better comes along. Which, really, is the same logic I use for that camera, food mixer or combi drill, and why the examples, for me at least, are apt.
Wow, though a 760 can be bought for the same price. They should start with the 690 drop it to £550 to compete with the hd 7990's price drop
Buy 2 670's for 400 odd quid and have yourself a Titan killer. Bit of a no brainer there really.
Though this drop is a bit of an (expected) sting having spent near £700 on said cards last year. ><
I've just ordered MSI GeForce GTX 760 Twin Frozr Gaming Series for £203. I hope it's the right choice
4GB Gigabyte version coming my way very soon (once the stock lands). Seems an opportunity too good to miss to upgrade from my ageing 470 (also from Gigabyte)
Oooh that's nice, glad I held off.
The 670 had to fall eventually, it is one of the few cards whose price didn't really change for the 12 months after it was originally released.
Still a brilliant card though, as is the 7950. That sort of performance in a sub £200 card hasn't been seen for generations (of GPU architecture).
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