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    Re: News - Nvidia and Ubisoft form PC gaming alliance

    All popular franchises, but only if you enjoy those games. Not the genre I tend to play so nothing here to entice me. Others I am sure will be drooling over this announcement.

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    Re: News - Nvidia and Ubisoft form PC gaming alliance

    Quote Originally Posted by crossy View Post
    Yes, but read the article - it mentions "full SLI support", that's NOT "electronic diarrhoea" that's close to "core functionality" if you're one of the folks who rely on SLi to deliver a decent frame rate. Likewise I've had some of those Radeon-specific settings that definitely make an image look better - again not E.D.

    That out of the way, PhysX being poor I'll agree with. Then again, I think NVidia "screwed the pooch" on that - they should have tried to make it a standard, confident that their implementation would be the best (because they set the standard).
    I wasn't talking about SLI, I was specifically addressing PhysX which was in the quoted post, which in my opinion is just a glorified physics engine.

    Going foward, I genuinely hope PhysX goes away in favour of open standards or directly integrated into game engines, than arbitrarily disabled on competitor platforms.

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    Re: News - Nvidia and Ubisoft form PC gaming alliance

    Quote Originally Posted by OilSheikh View Post
    Who buys PC games anymore ? They are not saleable!
    Wasn't it someone from the Anno dev team who said that, and not Ubisoft itself?

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    Re: News - Nvidia and Ubisoft form PC gaming alliance

    Good news for Ubisoft; bad news for Nvidia.

    Why would any company want to be associated with I-hate-PCs, DRM-obsessed Ubisoft?

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    Re: News - Nvidia and Ubisoft form PC gaming alliance

    Quote Originally Posted by anselhelm View Post
    Why would any company want to be associated with I-hate-PCs, DRM-obsessed Ubisoft?
    Sounds like a good match after all

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    Re: News - Nvidia and Ubisoft form PC gaming alliance

    Quote Originally Posted by Marenghi View Post
    bet you have a steam/origin account though
    Yes I do. I have nothing against DRM in general, and don't mind the way steam do it (ie offline mode etc) I am against Ubi's Constant connection DRM which means you can't even play single player games whilst not online, something which I do often whilst travelling and working away

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    Re: News - Nvidia and Ubisoft form PC gaming alliance

    Quote Originally Posted by OilSheikh View Post
    Who buys PC games anymore ? They are not saleable!
    Can with origin now. Just up-to steam to follow suite...
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    Re: News - Nvidia and Ubisoft form PC gaming alliance

    Quote Originally Posted by AETAaAS View Post
    In a competitive game, PhysX could be a detriment to your performance.
    Back when I played competitively (over a decade ago), I would lower details and the resolution as much as possible to boost performance and remove distracting eye candy. But nowadays, I don't play FPS online much, let alone competitively. And when playing casually, I want the eye candy. Obviously gameplay comes first and one can debate as to whether PhysX brings something worthwhile. I think that's down to the implementation rather than the underlying technology. But while you can switch it off if you don't like the implementation but you can not switch it on your card doesn't support it at all.

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    Re: News - Nvidia and Ubisoft form PC gaming alliance

    Quote Originally Posted by TooNice View Post
    Back when I played competitively (over a decade ago), I would lower details and the resolution as much as possible to boost performance and remove distracting eye candy. But nowadays, I don't play FPS online much, let alone competitively. And when playing casually, I want the eye candy. Obviously gameplay comes first and one can debate as to whether PhysX brings something worthwhile. I think that's down to the implementation rather than the underlying technology. But while you can switch it off if you don't like the implementation but you can not switch it on your card doesn't support it at all.
    I'm not sure if this is what you were getting at but that is part of the problem. Because nVidia has locked PhysX down, game developers can't really make it an integral part of gameplay for fear of narrowing their customer base not just on the PC but on other platforms as well, which relegates PhysX to rendering electronic diarrhoea.

    With regard to details, I did the same thing. One game in particular you could 'cheat' in was Battlefield Vietnam IIRC, where turning details down would remove foliage and much improve your view of the battlefield.

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    Re: News - Nvidia and Ubisoft form PC gaming alliance

    I am all for hardware manufactureres and publishers joining forces, it's been done for years and has not impacted me once. On the contrary, with certain partnerships trying to offer a unique element to the mix we have been able to grow the hardware itself into something better.

    Until that happens with this one, we will just continue to see it as joint advertising efforts.


    Quote Originally Posted by OilSheikh View Post
    Who buys PC games anymore ? They are not saleable!
    A very large portion of this site i'd imagine. Although they aren't saleable they can usually be got for a fraction of the price compared to a consale version.

    For example, thanks to the steam summer sale i got an extra 12 games for less than £20, and the humble bundle has granted me playable copies of 8 good games and 11 ok games for less than £10.

    That £30 on a console will buy....one game. If I was still paying that price for games i'd be miffed off if I couldnt sell it on too.

    Quote Originally Posted by kierant View Post
    Can [sell] with origin now. Just up-to steam to follow suite...
    To clear this point up, you can't sell your played games back to Origin. They have allowed refunds for if certain is met, but that is all.
    Last edited by Chadders87; 23-08-2013 at 12:34 PM.

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    Re: News - Nvidia and Ubisoft form PC gaming alliance

    Quote Originally Posted by AETAaAS View Post
    I'm not sure if this is what you were getting at but that is part of the problem.
    My point being, that impact competitive play is likely a major factor for most (especially for something that's optional).

    It's been a while since I've tried PhysX (laptop GPU showing it's age, and I am moving too often nowadays to get a desktop), but as I recall, Batman and Mirror Edge made some decent use of PhysX. I've not tried Borderline 2, but I've read praise about it too. Clearly it is not your thing, but the difference is that you have it but don't like it, you can switch it off, but if you don't have it, you'll never be able to make your own (subjective) judgement about it.

    Now if an equally good or better open standard comes along, and gather supports, great. In the mean time, all things being equal (they never are), I'd favour having the -option- of enabling PhysX than not.

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    Re: News - Nvidia and Ubisoft form PC gaming alliance

    Nvidia - N****ia, a company that allways thinks only for themselves, greedy and hungry. Will never buy Nvidia...

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    Re: News - Nvidia and Ubisoft form PC gaming alliance

    Quote Originally Posted by loyal986 View Post
    Nvidia - N****ia, a company that allways thinks only for themselves, greedy and hungry. Will never buy Nvidia...
    Dude, nothing wrong witn nVidia.. The real assholes in the PC industry is Intel !

    Quote Originally Posted by ninja2000 View Post
    Well until Ubisoft stop using their nasty always connected DRM I am not interested in any of their titles
    Plenty of ways around that..

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    Re: News - Nvidia and Ubisoft form PC gaming alliance

    I consider the fact theses enterprises work together an excellent initiative because I see gamers playing more realistic games. Meantime, I don't like how theses contracts of cooperation sounds... I mean, "with exclusiveness", because the gamers can lose innovations made by others technologies.

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    Re: News - Nvidia and Ubisoft form PC gaming alliance

    partnering with nvidia eh, its in history, plus ps4 gonna use amd gpu...

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