This was my exact thought when I read about the nvidia announcement. Have they ported SteamOS for Shield? If so it actually makes Shield a lot more appealing, because you could stream games from any PC, not just an nvidia-equipped one (presumably, anyway).Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix
Either that or SteamOS streaming will only work on PCs with nvidia graphics. Which would be pretty foul....
I thought Shield was an Android device? Ability to drive any Android device as a controller and/or screen with the correct app would seem sensible. The new Archos tablet would work nicely for that as well.
Thinking about it, wasn't there an Nvidia announcment regarding the SHIELD prior to it's release that stated it would be able to stream games from the Steam Client?
IIRC, the Shield streaming was only meant to work with PCs with nvidia graphics, due to some proprietary tie-in the of kind that nvidia have made themselves infamous for over the years. And was independent of Steam.
Hmmmm, a SteamOS app for Android (and potentially iOS/Windows Modern) might make sense, but I'm not sure how generic you could make it (without physical controls most Android devices would make really bad controllers). It'd be great for Shield/Archos Gamepad/Xperia Play, but outside of that I don't see much mileage. If nvidia are genuinely a hardware partner I see that as being more likely to be in some form of extension device, and probably with a more proprietary element than just an android app.
Guess we'll find out tomorrow evening, though!
I still think this is all down to content though.
Let me put it this way, if they announced that the SteamOS download included, for free but SteamOS only, Half Life 3, who's in?
I'm starting to wonder if it's going to be a "better" sharing policy. The O+O branding suggests two SteamOS instances working together. I guess it could be some kind of software bundling, but if the whole launch event is meant to be about targeting living room gamers, then something social would seem like a sensible inclusion...
Family sharing that we have been hearing about?
There was that odd requirement that you need 10 Steam friends to sign up for the hardware beta as well.
O+O looks like a pair of glasses to me, so some kind of wearable tech for display/input would be my wild guess
Ok, I found a similiar source to the one I read a while ago:http://www.mobiletechreview.com/tabl...DIA-Shield.htm
So it seems Nvidia partnered with Valve for their streaming service. So perhaps we are now going to see Steams version come to life in the next announcment?What if your Steam library is slim? Then this product might not be for you if PC Streaming is a prime concern. Serious gamers probably do have a healthy Steam library and you can add non-Steam games to your Steam library, though there's no guarantee they'll work. Happily NVIDIA didn't partner with Origin, which can barely run correctly on the desktop without grievous bugs. One more caveat: your gaming PC and the Shield must be connected to the same WiFi network, so you can kick back on the couch to be closer to your family when gaming, but you can't play PC Streaming games from a hotel while your desktop purrs along at home. And yes, your desktop must be turned on for this to work. While the Shield is connected, the PC's resolution is set to 1280 x 720 to match the Shield, and you can't use your PC for other things or it will kick the Shield out. Yes, you'll need to enable beta mode in Steam, at least for now (that setting is under account settings).
I'd like to be able to access my games from my account and be able to play them via the Steam Box. The Linux listing need to be brought up to date for the current games and software that is out there. Seems like a good idea, now to see what becomes of it.
Hate to bump an aging thread, but I've had a thought.
Anyone know if Steam for linux, and games that run under it, are x86 only? I know there's plenty of linux distros out there with Arm support, but I don't know if you need to compile binaries separately for each platform (I assume, however, that you do).
If they could make SteamOS work seamlessly across both x86 and ARM devices, that'd give them a big toe up into the mobile device market and low-power nettop-style boxes (just imagine using a RasbPi to stream PC games from your PC to your living room TV....)
Games under Linux would require a recompile to run under ARM.
Most x86 coders are not used to writing portable code, so there would probably be some debugging required as well.
Then there is the problem that ARM isn't very quick, so a streaming client would seem fair game but I don't expect to see Halflife 3 on my phone any time soon.
Perhaps when the 64 bit ARM chips come out then full steam support might be worth them looking into.
DanceswithUnix is right. But, there's an increasing amount of portability in middleware, libraries, part in thanks to mobile devices now being capable of doing a lot, and don't forget the last generation of consoles were all PowerPC, and yet there were still PC ports of console games.
I imagine the effort in getting everything working smoothly for Linux on x86 is the focus though, so I wouldn't expect any ARM action in the near future.
But GabeN, please feel free to surprise me.
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I've only used Steam on x86 architecture so don't know but you raise a good point, something I'm interested to know. I would love for my Steam library to work on my Nexus 7 for instance, those games that can like Cogs, Osmos and others. I think Valve would of mentioned it though, or at least said that they are working on something similar.
But remember, the PowerPC is a grown up architecture. The PS3 and XB360 have 64 bit PowerPC cores with two threads per core.
Traditional ARM has its strength in simplicity, not performance. I think it says a lot that on a basically Java based Android platform, the usually Java based Minecraft had to be re-coded in C++ to make it perform on ARM hardware.
Getting the SteamOS client running on ARM is probably pretty easy (and I would expect largely done already, and might even be running on Shield). I think you will be limited to Plants vs Zombies for games though.
Looks like the prototypes use Intel CPUs and Nvidia graphics cards:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ste...28928746175450
Meh.
I am sticking to Windows.
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