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    Features - QOTW: Are graphics card rebrands acceptable to you?

    Let's hear it, how do you really feel about recycled technology?
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    Re: Features - QOTW: Are graphics card rebrands acceptable to you?

    If its cheaper than the old and updated then yes they are acceptable.

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    Re: Features - QOTW: Are graphics card rebrands acceptable to you?

    In this case they are cheaper, use newer firmware and are updated then yes. However rebrands where the card is more expensive and advertised as next generation are not.

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    Re: Features - QOTW: Are graphics card rebrands acceptable to you?

    It's not acceptable unless the re-branded card is at least slightly faster than the fastest version of what its based on.

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    Re: Features - QOTW: Are graphics card rebrands acceptable to you?

    NVidia were kind of justified, because they took their top-of-the-line old card (The 680) and rebadged it as a middle-of-the-range card (The 760), then introduced a brand-new top-of-the-range card.

    AMD have taken their top-of-the-line card (the 7970) and re-badged it as their new top-of-the-line card (The R280X). I'm not so much a fan of that particular maneuver.

    However, AMD have fallen from grace with me recently anyway, with their CPUs performing so poorly and my investment in their AM3+ architecture being such a poor choice. Add to that micro-stuttering issues, and the poor quality of their software and drivers, and I'm afraid they're not getting my business any time soon.

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    Re: Features - QOTW: Are graphics card rebrands acceptable to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anaerin View Post
    NVidia were kind of justified, because they took their top-of-the-line old card (The 680) and rebadged it as a high-end card (The 770), then introduced a brand-new top-of-the-range card.

    AMD have taken their top-of-the-line card (the 7970) and re-badged it as a high-end card (The R280X). I'm not so much a fan of that particular maneuver.

    However, AMD have fallen from grace with me recently anyway, with their CPUs performing so poorly and my investment in their AM3+ architecture being such a poor choice. Add to that micro-stuttering issues, and the poor quality of their software and drivers, and I'm afraid they're not getting my business any time soon.
    Fixed that for you.

    Also AMD Piledriver chips perform very well and are great value for money. Their software and drivers are pretty solid nowadays, maybe not as good as Nvidias but still perfectly fine.

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    Re: Features - QOTW: Are graphics card rebrands acceptable to you?

    If priced accordingly, YES.

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    Re: Features - QOTW: Are graphics card rebrands acceptable to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaoss View Post
    In this case they are cheaper, use newer firmware and are updated then yes. However rebrands where the card is more expensive and advertised as next generation are not.
    Like buying a 7730 for 7770 prices?
    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...56&subcat=1984

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    Re: Features - QOTW: Are graphics card rebrands acceptable to you?

    the re brands are dearer than the old versions usually but people seem to buy them so they wont stop doing it.
    I for one like it as usually they drop the price on the old versions to shift them and make way for the new stuff so bargains to be had


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    Re: Features - QOTW: Are graphics card rebrands acceptable to you?

    The important thing is the name. Both companies have done it right this time by shuffling their cards down a notch, 680 becomes 770 and 7970 becomes 280X (290X will be the new high end). This is a much better situation than we had with say, the 8800 GT being rebranded as the 9800 GT.

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    Re: Features - QOTW: Are graphics card rebrands acceptable to you?

    As everyone else has said, IF they are priced lower than the equivalent card then yes. I would also argue that it needs to somehow be labeled a rebrand.

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    Re: Features - QOTW: Are graphics card rebrands acceptable to you?

    Time for another fanboy bait then eh? Don't take this the wrong way, but if a regular member posted a question like that, you'd probably get a few 'report posts' back, and I can see newer members being warned for it.

    But I do feel the need to clear a few things up.

    Nvidia are no different with their 700 series; the 780 is based on the GK110, like the Titan, which is in turn using a die released a good deal earlier for compute cards. The 770 is basically a 680, and the 760 is another rebrand. Nothing new. But no bait thread for that? Fair enough, and people generally accepted it knowing the cards were somewhat better value for money than their existing cards.

    The new AMD series actually contains some new silicon; obviously there's the 290/X which uses the Hawaii die (the 280X is certainly *not* the highest end part), then there's the Curacau die which, while looking similar to Pitcairn, might contain some of the new features like the audio extensions, newer GCN, etc (although not confirmed). And Oland hasn't been released for retail sale yet.

    As others have said, rebranding some of the existing cards, especially for the lower end models, is commonplace. And since we're still at 28nm, there's probably little to be gained from releasing a new die into the same market segment.

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    Re: Features - QOTW: Are graphics card rebrands acceptable to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by cheesyboy View Post
    Like buying a 7730 for 7770 prices?
    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...56&subcat=1984
    And you just happened to choose the most expensive one... a coincidence I'm sure.

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    Re: Features - QOTW: Are graphics card rebrands acceptable to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by cheesyboy View Post
    Like buying a 7730 for 7770 prices?
    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...56&subcat=1984
    Cheapest ones of each on Scan:
    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-s...al-link-dvi-i-
    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-x...-sub-dvi-d-hdm

    The 250 is also a 2GB card, and it is actually higher spec'd/clocked than the 7730.

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    Re: Features - QOTW: Are graphics card rebrands acceptable to you?

    I don't like it. I would much prefer to have new architectures get the new model numbers rather than rebrands, it just annoys me that they change number arbitrarily. If you are going to have a classification for your products you should stick to that, changing the badge of a product that is the very same makes the classification pointless. What is worse is that they know this and do it on purpose because there are people that would not have caught on to it being the same with a different name and then buy it thinking they are getting something different from what they are being given. When ever this is done I tend to steer clear of that manufacturer until they've produced something worthwhile rather than a rebrand.

    For me it is unacceptable because they are selling old products with the false pretence of it being new. If you are going to do something you should do it properly and rebrands are a mockery of your own products.

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    Re: Features - QOTW: Are graphics card rebrands acceptable to you?

    I'm not a fan, a load of hype about nothing essentially. I'd rather they just waited until they had a new architecture for that particular market segment rather than doing rebadges. But both Green and Red are guilty of it, so what you going to do?

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