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    Re: News - Nvidia GTX Titan Z graphics cards are unleashed

    Remind me, what does this do that a pair of titan blacks cannot do faster and for £800 less?

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    Re: News - Nvidia GTX Titan Z graphics cards are unleashed

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlucine View Post
    Remind me, what does this do that a pair of titan blacks cannot do faster and for £800 less?
    nothing except fit 2 in the same space if water cooled....

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    Re: News - Nvidia GTX Titan Z graphics cards are unleashed

    So, it's the price of 2 295X2's... can't wait for THAT face-off.

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    Re: News - Nvidia GTX Titan Z graphics cards are unleashed

    Quote Originally Posted by flufflogic View Post
    So, it's the price of 2 295X2's... can't wait for THAT face-off.
    They wont do it. HardOCP mailed NV about doing a face off. NV PR "doesnt want to do that"

    We reached out to NVIDIA's Senior PR Manager of Consumer Products Bryan Del Rizzo and asked:

    We are planning a R9 295X2 QuadFire review. Would NVIDIA like to have a contender in this review? If so, let me know what you might have.

    The reply we got back from Bryan Del Rizzo was:

    No Thanks.

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    Re: News - Nvidia GTX Titan Z graphics cards are unleashed

    Quote Originally Posted by LSG501 View Post
    SLI doesn't make any difference for cuda, most professional apps I work with don't support sli either (yes it's annoying) or need ecc for that matter. All cuda cards throttle thermally when doing gpu rendering in my experience, they're working hard after all.

    ...if you're buying it from some places like say scan (they do titan based 3d systems already) then there's nothing to say you couldn't have 3/4 of these watercooled in a case, they're still normal size.
    You do realise that the Titan Z has two graphics cores so is SLI on a card. If your application doesn't support SLI then it is unlikely to be able to drive both cores on this card, it also doesn't make any sense to put 3/4 in the same case if your apps are not able to make use of SLI.

    Based on this your best bet would be to buy a single Titan Black; without SLI enabled applications this has the same amount of cores you would be able to use on a Titan Z but at a higher clock rate.

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    Re: News - Nvidia GTX Titan Z graphics cards are unleashed

    most render farms are cpu driven - when your using 500GB of data per scene , you need fast SAN interconnects and a lot of ram rather tna cards like this which will cause latency issues.


    and other than AE (and some specialised imaging software) - most programmes use cpu or OCL anyway (see toms article about the industry). CUDA isn't as widespread as nv want you to believe

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    Re: News - Nvidia GTX Titan Z graphics cards are unleashed

    Quote Originally Posted by Slivver View Post
    If your application doesn't support SLI then it is unlikely to be able to drive both cores on this card...
    Unless, of course, CUDA/OpenCL/DirectCompute provide their own methods for directly accessing the GPUs. Which they do. Remember, SLi is only a segmented image rendering technology, it isn't a catchall for all multiple GPU use.
    Quote Originally Posted by Agent View Post
    ...every time Creative bring out a new card range their advertising makes it sound like they have discovered a way to insert a thousand Chuck Norris super dwarfs in your ears...

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    Re: News - Nvidia GTX Titan Z graphics cards are unleashed

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    Unless, of course, CUDA/OpenCL/DirectCompute provide their own methods for directly accessing the GPUs. Which they do. Remember, SLi is only a segmented image rendering technology, it isn't a catchall for all multiple GPU use.
    But that then wouldn't preclude use of multiple cards would it?

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    Re: News - Nvidia GTX Titan Z graphics cards are unleashed

    This is simply bad marketing by Nvidia and as usual greed.

    I already have a system with 4x GTX Titans and 2x E5-2687w processors. I do 3d modelling and 3d visualisation, so Titans for IRAY and the 32 logical CPU cores for Mental Ray. I was planning on building another system purely as a render node, and waited for the Titan-Z to launch, but now it has and after seeing the price tag, no way!

    I was expecting it to be priced the same as what two GTX Titan blacks would cost, after all that’s essentially what it is, but for the £2300+ price tag, you can get 2x GTX Titan Blacks and save £700 to £800 depending on brand/retailer.

    There are some plus sides to the GTX Titan-Z like only occupying 3 slots instead of 4 sots for two GTX Titan Blacks, and only consuming 375W, compared to 500W for two GTX Titan Blacks at full load, but this is only going to appeal to large data centres wanting to cut energy costs and reduce heat, End users like myself that need the performance and 6Gb of onboard memory for large data sets, and small to medium sized studios, Cuda developers etc will avoid the Titan-Z and get 3x GTX Titan black’s for the same price, and getting a lot more Cuda cores to play with for the money.

    The GTX Titan and Titan Black were already targeted at a niche market for extreme gamer that don’t care about cost, and people like myself who use it for professional use in 3d rendering etc, but the Titan-Z alienates itself even from these markets because of its insane price tag. Its only appeal being to large data centres, and insane gamers that buy a pair for bragging rights, that have way more money than sense. For people looking for the fastest Cuda performance, 6Gb of onboard memory, and double precision compute, 3x GTX Titan Blacks will be a clear winner than using the same budget on one GTX Titan-Z.

    Nvidia are going to loose out on a lot of potential sales , again because of short sighted greed.

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    Re: News - Nvidia GTX Titan Z graphics cards are unleashed

    This is simply bad marketing by Nvidia and as usual greed.

    I already have a system with 4x GTX Titans and 2x E5-2687w processors. I do 3d modelling and 3d visualisation, so Titans for IRAY and the 32 logical CPU cores for Mental Ray. I was planning on building another system purely as a render node, and waited for the Titan-Z to launch, but now it has and after seeing the price tag, no way!

    I was expecting it to be priced the same as what two GTX Titan blacks would cost, after all that’s essentially what it is, but for the £2300+ price tag, you can get 2x GTX Titan Blacks and save £700 to £800 depending on brand/retailer.

    There are some plus sides to the GTX Titan-Z like only occupying 3 slots instead of 4 sots for two GTX Titan Blacks, and only consuming 375W, compared to 500W for two GTX Titan Blacks at full load, but this is only going to appeal to large data centres wanting to cut energy costs and reduce heat, End users like myself that need the performance and 6Gb of onboard memory for large data sets, and small to medium sized studios, Cuda developers etc will avoid the Titan-Z and get 3x GTX Titan black’s for the same price, and getting a lot more Cuda cores to play with for the money.

    The GTX Titan and Titan Black were already targeted at a niche market for extreme gamer that don’t care about cost, and people like myself who use it for professional use in 3d rendering etc, but the Titan-Z alienates itself even from these markets because of its insane price tag. Its only appeal being to large data centres, and insane gamers that buy a pair for bragging rights, that have way more money than sense. For people looking for the fastest Cuda performance, 6Gb of onboard memory, and double precision compute, 3x GTX Titan Blacks will be a clear winner than using the same budget on one GTX Titan-Z.

    Nvidia are going to loose out on a lot of potential sales , again because of short sighted greed.

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    Re: News - Nvidia GTX Titan Z graphics cards are unleashed

    rubbish card. quickly giving up on all this PC build system crap.

    Drip feeding us consumers with rebadged stuff.

    Most exciting thing that has happened in the past 5 years are SSD's

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    Re: News - Nvidia GTX Titan Z graphics cards are unleashed

    Quote Originally Posted by mercyground View Post
    They wont do it. HardOCP mailed NV about doing a face off. NV PR "doesnt want to do that"
    Same poop different day in the Nvidia PR dpt

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