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    Re: News - Video shows Windows 9 Start Menu in action

    Quote Originally Posted by Noxvayl View Post
    ....

    You say no thanks, but would you say that if it was free as well?
    I did. I bought Win 8, and it's sitting on the shelf, with Win 7 still in use some of the time, and Linux most of the time. And I hadn't used Linux for anything other than dabbling until after I bought, and experienced, Win 8.

    In other words, having bought Win 8, I stopped using it and switched to Ubuntu, except for times when I explicitly need Windows, at which point, I use Win 7. The ONLY time I use W8 is when testing something for someone else that uses W8.

    And yes, I am and long have been aware of Classic Shell, Start8 and about half a dozen others.

    I haven't looked at the leaked stuff yet, and may well not bother, until/unless it becomes clear it's what MS will actually include in shipping versions of W9.

    If, and it's definitely an "if", whatever MS come up with works for me, and that includes having my menu back, usable in the way I have and want to use it, and if the clunky aspects of MUI can be disabled (by which I mean avoid the context switching crossy referred to, and not being stuck with Fisher-Price "tiles" I don't want or need, then maybe I'll consider buying W9.

    Maybe.

    But frankly, MS forced me to seriously look at Ubuntu, and lo and behold, it does everything I need, short of a couple of legacy apps, which can happily stay on Win7, or in at least one case, XP. Do I need Win 8 or Win 9? No. I now can I can cope, quite comfortably, without ever needing another new MS OS for my own use, at all.

    So, my forward attitude depends very much on what I think MS are up to, long-term. If it looks like W9 is seen by MS as a stepping stone to a MUI world, then they can shove it where the sun don't shine. If they intend to take us to a MUI world, but using baby steps rather than the Win8 one-big-leap, then they can shove it. If, on the other hand, this looks like a genuine reconciliation between MS and the real-world situation where lots of users just don't want their MUI world, and they are reconciled to Win9 and later allowing US, the users, to configure the UI as WE want it, then and only then will I consider it.

    So if Win9 ends up as comments in this thread suggests it looks like, then crossy, I'm not the first to say it but, yup, this is how they should have done it first time. How they actually did it was, of course, a strategic and PR disaster of first order magnitude.

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    Re: News - Video shows Windows 9 Start Menu in action

    Still not impressed. The main issues such as Metro is still present. Win7 start menu still looks better.
    Will stick with Windows 7 for another 10 years at this rate

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    Re: News - Video shows Windows 9 Start Menu in action

    Quote Originally Posted by Noxvayl View Post
    I didn't buy Windows 8... got it free from University
    You say no thanks, but would you say that if it was free as well?
    On that basis, if the Uni offers you 9 for free too, are you saying that you'd prefer a tweaked 8 to the "new hotness" (and to continue that MiB quote, as opposed to the "old and busted")? Unfortunately Saracen beat me to the Linux punch, although app support is - as usual - the big go/no-go for that.
    Quote Originally Posted by OilSheikh View Post
    Still not impressed. The main issues such as Metro is still present. Win7 start menu still looks better. Will stick with Windows 7 for another 10 years at this rate
    Just remove the Metro tiles (which I presume are optional, but defaulted), and get back to warmed over Windows7 menu "sanity"?

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    Re: News - Video shows Windows 9 Start Menu in action

    I've have tried Ubuntu numerous times, the most significant last year when I started uni I used Ubuntu before I found out I could get Windows 8 and 8.1 for free. This was a different computer to my gaming machine so thought I could do without some games, as a good way to not be distracted by them. Turns out the features I enjoy the most about Windows come from other applications, they are the deciding factor.

    I have said, multiple times, that I agree with Saracen, so repeating similar sentiments is preaching to the choir. I am simply saying that the argument, although valid, is exaggerated in my view.

    The issues raised, by us, numerous times, don't go away by raising them every time you can. I feel that still complaining about it now is a waste of energy, we've all made our decisions and the next step Microsoft takes will be more closely watched by us all. So far, they seem to be at least trying to address the problem we have highlighted; but in typical Microsoft fashion, I don't think they will get it right. We'll see, I will be getting Windows 9 because it will be free though, the same way I keep getting the newer version of Ubuntu despite never using it long term.

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    Re: News - Video shows Windows 9 Start Menu in action

    looks great

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    Re: News - Video shows Windows 9 Start Menu in action

    It looks alright, but in my opinion they should have just copied the W7 start menu and be done with it. One positive rumour that I've heard is that from W9 on Microsoft will update its OS in a more streamlined fashion - like OS-X and Linux does. That would be a big thing. Just update the kernel, fix the bugs, make small changes and call it W9.1. That way people can get used to using one UI, not having to re-learn how to use Windows every time they release a new version of it.

    That said, I'm finished with Microsoft and Windows as far as I'm concerned. I am still *forced* to use Windows XP and 7 for making audio, but that's all I do with them. Everything else is taken care of by Linux Debian Xfce. After like 20 years with Windows. What a relief. The sense of freedom, choice and relief that Linux gives you. Like, "I don't like this UI, I'll try that one." And you don't even have to reinstall anything just to try another UI... you can have multiple UIs with one Linux installation. Brilliant.

    Anyway, it's a pleasant surprise to see that Microsoft is finally starting to listen to what their users think. I keep thinking that should have been Windows 8, but I don't care any more. XP and W7 runs my audio studio apps just fine and that's all I need. Cheers!

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    Re: News - Video shows Windows 9 Start Menu in action

    Now lets get this straight

    Windows 7 with Nvidia GTX60 runs BF4 perfectly well on full graphics and 3 X monitors

    Windows 8.1 with same hardware and low graphocs runs laggy and like a pile of ****

    Motherboard EVGA x79 Dark 64Gigs of GSkill 2400 Mbs Ram

    Windows 8.1 feels and looks like a pile of ****

    Saoory Microsoft have not improved or Fixed anything here and even one of your Major CEO's ends up leaving your company because you are now no longer looking after the product or your customers but only interested in making the next Buck at the cost of anything.

    Microsoft ios now in the bin as far as I am concerned and I want nothing more to do with Microsoft.
    As an Microsoft Certified and competent Engineer for 30 years I have now turned my back on this tin pot company and have no further interest in anything they have to offer, I have ditched my exams and will not be upgrading any of my core Microsoft skills and I am just not interested.

    Microsoft had the chance to fix this and do something about it and they have not even listened to the very people who spend the money on their products.

    Good Bye Microsoft

    You turned Crap

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    Re: News - Video shows Windows 9 Start Menu in action

    Looks nice, and I'm really fired up about this, but actually I'm curious if this is going to be brand new OS or next update for Win8 users as 8.1 was.

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    Re: News - Video shows Windows 9 Start Menu in action

    (Windows 3.1 to Windows 7): I try to keep my 1st level of Start Menu folders to <15. I hate all-and-sundry creating yet another 1st level folder for just 1 app (the frequent 40 to 70+ are a big problem). I create a logical set of categories then group similar apps together and use the 2nd level if required for those extra shortcuts (especially those I don't use). This goes back to me using 7 to 9 on a page in DOS based menu on an Osborne XT and newer DOS menu systems pre Win95.

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    Re: News - Video shows Windows 9 Start Menu in action

    I will miss metro, give me quick access to apps, and I don;t have to have my desktop cluttered with icons.

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    Re: News - Video shows Windows 9 Start Menu in action

    Quote Originally Posted by gstrange42 View Post
    I will miss metro, give me quick access to apps, and I don;t have to have my desktop cluttered with icons.
    Same as the start menu then, eh?
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    And by trying to force me to like small pants, they've alienated me.

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    Re: News - Video shows Windows 9 Start Menu in action

    Quote Originally Posted by gstrange42 View Post
    I will miss metro, give me quick access to apps, and I don;t have to have my desktop cluttered with icons.
    Sadly metro isn't going anywhere, if you prefer to use it on a desktop or with a K+M you can.
    This time around it seems Microsoft isn't forcing its customers into one box or the other.

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    Re: News - Video shows Windows 9 Start Menu in action

    Looks workable. Don't like the boxy flat look, but at least not actively annoying any more.

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