AMD Radeon R9 380X expected to be launched in Q2 2015

[iggy]

There should have been a at the end of my comment really.

Still, though, when something changes from a gas to a liquid, it is no longer a gas, but a liquid. It would be like calling ice a solid liquid.

[kalniel]

Still, though, when something changes from a gas to a liquid, it is no longer a gas, but a liquid. It would be like calling ice a solid liquid.

Depends what we'd consider it's natural state to be. We see water as ice, water and steam quite naturally so it's no problem to use all three, but things which are usually gases and are unnaturally converted to liquids through pressure treatment etc. so that they can carry energy in the conversion back again tend to be called 'liquefied gas'.

[bob3406]

For 300W card (presumably on a 20nm process), this thing needs to be more than 2x faster than 290X! Otherwise in terms of performance per watt, AMD are screwed compared to NVidia...

It's only 10-20W TDP more than a 290X isn't it? So as long as it's 10% faster then it's at least the same perf/watt.

But given the NVidia's Maxwell (GTX980) is nearly double the performance per watt of the 290X, (on the same 28nm process) AMD have much work to do with this 380X!

[kalniel]

But given the NVidia's Maxwell (GTX980) is nearly double the performance per watt of the 290X, (on the same 28nm process) AMD have much work to do with this 380X!

If perf/watt is the primary consideration, sure. But then if that's the case there are better chips in the AMD line up. Likewise for nVidia.

[iggy]

The gtx 980 is also nearly double the price. The current 280x is sub £200

[bob3406]

But given the NVidia's Maxwell (GTX980) is nearly double the performance per watt of the 290X, (on the same 28nm process) AMD have much work to do with this 380X!

If perf/watt is the primary consideration, sure. But then if that's the case there are better chips in the AMD line up. Likewise for nVidia.

Sure, but the perf/watt gap of even AMD's most power efficient card (270X) to NVidia is over 35%. Overall the Maxwell architecture is so much more power efficient. As evidenced on this chart:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GeForce_GTX_980_G1_Gaming/28.html

Don't get me wrong, I'm no fanboy of either company. I currently run an R9 290 because it was the best value for money when I bought it a year ago... But right now, AMD have catching up to do. Possibly even more so when the rumoured GM200 chip lands.

[DanceswithUnix]

Yet the next chart on from that with performance per dollar is a landslide for AMD.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/G...Gaming/29.html

Just choose what matters to you.

[bob3406]

Yet the next chart on from that with performance per dollar is a landslide for AMD.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/G...Gaming/29.html

Just choose what matters to you.

Hence why I own a R9 290...! But pricing is more easily changed than power consumption. NVidia are charging more at the moment because they can. I want AMD to hit back soon if only for the sake of competition which will improve prices for all us consumers.

[xslavic]

4096 cores will not be enough to upgrade from 290x.I would rather buy another Asus R9 290x.

[TRUTHnTRINITY]

When taking into consideration a system as a whole, the price for a 970 on average is $330US and the average for a 290x is $300US with that in mind for building you will not have to buy a 1000w+ PSU if you want to run dual 970s but you will for the 290x, also you need to buy a premium case with good airflow for the 290x while a 970 you could get away with a cheap case with no fans at all. At the moment NVIDIA owns AMD at every front, AMD has one card that NVIDIA can't match abd that is the 295x2 but unless you live somewhere that doesn't get above 22C it's not a smart buy. AMD needs there next release of GPUs to be amazing! NVIDIA has the GM200 coming as we all know and AMD needs to match it in raw performance alone to stand a chance.

[EndlessWaves]

NVIDIA has the GM200 coming as we all know and AMD needs to match it in raw performance alone to stand a chance.

They did fine with the 4850 despite not being able to match the GTX 280.

They top end is interesting but irrelevant. The key area for gamers is 270X/750ti to 290X/970 and for HTPC users it's which will support HEVC/VP9/HDMI 2.0 etc. first - if either of them can get there before Intel.

[hexuqito]

I'd pay for an energy efficient 370x itx compatible model if it gets released in March.