AMD to launch its HBM graphics cards on 16th June

[evs]

Only 2 of those games hit the 60fps magic number for the 4k monitor as well. Cost wise it's not looking worth it. I've got a 290x and for the jump up it's not worth it on bang for buck and I guess i'm the sort of person that the card is aimed at.

[shaithis]

Even though it's faster than nVidia's offerings? It's been a long time since a single chip GPU from AMD was fastest. The question is whether AMD can exploit that effect or if it'll just serve as a way of capping nVidia's silly end range price.

How has AMD sales been recently? You think people are suddenly going to rush out and buy an AMD card because its 10% faster at 4K?

Seems 4K still does not require the bandwidth of HBM.......kind of makes HBM pointless....and expensive.

[kalniel]

How has AMD sales been recently? You think people are suddenly going to rush out and buy an AMD card because its 10% faster at 4K?

No more than they'd rush out an nVidia card because it's 5% faster or whatever.

Seems 4K still does not require the bandwidth of HBM.......kind of makes HBM pointless....and expensive.

Are you saying AMD have come up with a super new core design that's given them this huge increase in speed instead then? That doesn't seem to match with the rumours.

[shaithis]

No more than they'd rush out an nVidia card because it's 5% faster or whatever.

I firmly believe nvidia sales are strong due to driver histories and the press. The recent gamework stories haven't helped either....

Are you saying AMD have come up with a super new core design that's given them this huge increase in speed instead then? That doesn't seem to match with the rumours.

Can't tell until we see numbers for lower resolutions and clockspeeds etc......Perhaps HBM is making a big difference......but if it is, then I feel for AMD as that would mean the card is beating a 980Ti by 10% when the 980Ti is crippled by lack of bandwidth. Lower resolution benchmarks will not look as favourable.

I guess we will find out soon enough.......

[kalniel]

that would mean the card is beating a 980Ti by 10% when the 980Ti is crippled by lack of bandwidth. Lower resolution benchmarks will not look as favourable.

I suspect there's a reason we've not seen them leaked... But it could just be the leak was to address the 4GB thing.

[DanceswithUnix]

Seems 4K still does not require the bandwidth of HBM.......kind of makes HBM pointless....and expensive.

I don't think it is as simple as that.

If HBM saves 50W (which it sounds like that is the right ball park), then you can spend that power budget clocking your shaders faster. So it should help if you are shader or power limited. Give it a year, and it can save power and size in laptop form factors. Expensive? Anything new is bound to be, but costs come down over time.

If it was a gimmick, then I doubt Nvidia would be trying to do HBM as well.

[AMDMatt]

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[DanceswithUnix]

Fudzilla are grinding the rumour mill some more

http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphic...e-respun-chips
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphic...ks-on-the-24th

[Biscuit]

Fudzilla are grinding the rumour mill some more

http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphic...e-respun-chips
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphic...ks-on-the-24th

If this is true and there is a bit more, 'under the hood' other than just a straight forward rebrand then this could be quite interesting. Just like the days of Fermi (480), there was nothing inherently wrong with the performance of the chip but it was a real power munching toaster. The second generation Fermi chip (580) had a lot of these problems reigned in (including unlocking the rest of the cores...)and turned out to be a perfectly acceptable performance boost over its predecessor. Similarly here, there is nothing inherently wrong with the performance of Hawaii and Tonga, so if they manage to improve heat and power usage which allows them to squeeze higher clocks and reduce the noise from the cooler then it should be able to match the GTX980/970/960.

[GuidoLS]

Fudzilla are grinding the rumour mill some more

http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphic...e-respun-chips
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphic...ks-on-the-24th

Used to take Fudzilla as a mostly reputable news site, until I realized that 99.9% of his links were to stories he had written previously, with no external links to other reputable sources. And if the commentary below his articles are correct, Faud is wrong as often (or more) than he is correct.