Re: AMD driver support for non-GCN graphics cards comes to an end
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s32ialx
GIf you had HBM on mid range cards already I would have an AMD card right now but I'm waiting for the mid range to get HBM and your new architecture.
Other then size of the card, what will HBM do to a mid-range card, other then increase the price?
Re: AMD driver support for non-GCN graphics cards comes to an end
As if the driver updates were making a difference anyway on my ATI Radeon HD 5670 :P
I do get affected by this and still dont get why you are crying about it, drivers cant do miracles when the problem is on the hardware(architecture). And although some of the cards are not really old, the technology they use is.
Re: AMD driver support for non-GCN graphics cards comes to an end
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shaithis
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Originally Posted by
s32ialx
GIf you had HBM on mid range cards already I would have an AMD card right now but I'm waiting for the mid range to get HBM and your new architecture.
Other then size of the card, what will HBM do to a mid-range card, other then increase the price?
It will not increase the price HBM doesn't cost more to manufacture it's reducing cost and over head in performance so it will keep the cost either the same or maybe reduce it. it will increase the performance of the memory of mid range cards while also consuming less power thus reducing overall heat of the system it's running in allowing the system to run better at that. (those cards do run hot (and by mid range I mean GTX 650/ti GTX 750/ti and AMD Equivalent including the 5450's 6570's run extremely hot for being low/mid range)
So having the new architecture in GPU and HBM would benefit that market also as it would allow not gaming multi-display systems function a lot smoother and cooler. since we don't need a honken GTX 980 or R9 380x to run an LED screen and a TV/Projector but it still with current cards generates a lot of unwanted heat and with no none stock cooling systems designed for lower grade cards the benefits can be seen and are worth it. In my opinion at least.
Re: AMD driver support for non-GCN graphics cards comes to an end
I cannot figure out how to edit my post so I also came across this article just now. http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/anton-shilov/amd-readies-three-new-gpus-for-2016-greenland-baffin-and-ellesmere/
so it looks like there may be new mid to low-end gpu's coming in 2016.
Re: AMD driver support for non-GCN graphics cards comes to an end
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nitro912gr
It is impressive how selective memory work for some people...
nVidia still sells GeForce 210 which is dropped to legacy status more than a year ago, yet "omg amd doesn't support but dare to sell legacy products"... which again is not amd or nvidia matter, they have sold the chips and their partners still have stock to sell, so they sell it on lower prices. (This is for the gpus only)
Because guess what, a driver at legacy status doesn't mean you card will stop working or anything, it means that it will no longer get any performance improvements through drivers, which is really not even worth mentioning at gpus that low, yeah you did noticed that 1fps you got from the last driver, didn't you?
Also all the cards that fall to legacy status now have their drivers for the latest for the latest windows version, so yeah if I get a new pc for my mom and I need a super low budget gpu they will still work for me. Another thing to consider is that even if they say a driver is in legacy status, this doesn't mean they will never see again a bug fix, it means that most of the bugs are eliminated and in case of a major breaking bug they will release a hotfix to get the cards in working order again.
I still use a 4850 on a system and I do play modern games on it with legacy drivers, no bugs, no problems, all good. Yeah so relax now and stop overacting.
Agreed - Nvidia has cards with the same name covering different uarches too.
Many of the lower end GTX700 series cards can be Fermi,Kepler or Maxwell based - that includes BOTH retail and OEM versions.
If you look at actual retail cards,all of them have been GCN based since early 2012:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Radeon_Rx_200_series
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_HD_7000_Series
A lot of the older non-GCN cards were sold in OEM desktops and are very low end,low performance cards.
Interestingly enough Nvidia did the same with its lower end 600 and 700 series cards too:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_600_series
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_700_series
You can see a massive mismatch of cards based on different uarchs.
Re: AMD driver support for non-GCN graphics cards comes to an end
I guess its time for me to lay my HD6990 to rest, has served me well over the years
Re: AMD driver support for non-GCN graphics cards comes to an end
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s32ialx
It will not increase the price HBM doesn't cost more to manufacture
It either costs more or AMD are fleecing people for their HBM cards.....and AMD are not in the position to fleece people.
Re: AMD driver support for non-GCN graphics cards comes to an end
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directhex
I couldn't even tell you which cards are affected.
AMD's mixing & matching of architectures within their version numbering scheme is a total cluster****.
You're absolutely right. As if it wasn't bad enough that they don't make it all that clear to consumers of their APUs that aren't enthusiasts - and lets be honest if you're a big enthusiast you're not going to be buying their APUs are you?
None of their product stack makes a lick of sense anymore unless you devote an unreasonable amount of time going through it with a fine toothed comb to see what you've got. This is where re-badging becomes such an issue. Although it does also kind of stink that they're retiring an architecture so quickly.
Re: AMD driver support for non-GCN graphics cards comes to an end
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Syphadeus
You're absolutely right. As if it wasn't bad enough that they don't make it all that clear to consumers of their APUs that aren't enthusiasts - and lets be honest if you're a big enthusiast you're not going to be buying their APUs are you?
None of their product stack makes a lick of sense anymore unless you devote an unreasonable amount of time going through it with a fine toothed comb to see what you've got. This is where re-badging becomes such an issue. Although it does also kind of stink that they're retiring an architecture so quickly.
This is some high level of trolling.
Re: AMD driver support for non-GCN graphics cards comes to an end
Ha, NVidia have been doing that for years with their drivers.(Making their cards obsolete, and forcing you to buy new ones)
But yes, the mixing of architectures within version numbers is pretty lame on AMD's side, so it is harder to tell if your HD7750 is supported or not. but I am glad that they are offering Crimson for legacy cards if only for one time, and are still offering Catalyst downloads.