Asetek demands AMD R9 Fury X graphics cards sales cease

[Ttaskmaster]

crossy: I guess we will agree to disagree on the merits of AIO closed loop water coolers, they are a great introduction to the world of water cooling but moving on to custom loops is easy.

Mine was easy enough to set up, sure... but it's not something most of my gaming friends would be confident doing themselves.
Even so, it was nerve-wracking as heck getting the GPU blocks on. I've had to help a friend do his because, despite being a long-time experienced builder and overclocker, the possibility of knackering £2000 worth of graphics cards was making his hands shake!!
My loop also cost me about £400 in all, whereas a pair of decent AIOs would have been less than half that... and even less in the sales!

The best part of AIOs is the plug & play aspect.
Having two separate AIOs for CPU/GU means you can swap one out without having to drain and re-jig your loops. It also means you don't have to buy expensive blocks every time you upgrade.

I'd never go back now I'm properly w/d'ed, but as a simple solution and for the money, my AIO was great!

[bronan]

Funny enough i do not see why the hel they could claim a patent on this ancient way of cooling anything. The whole patent world is a joke, colors, words everything gets patented just voor greed sakes (a sick system)

BTW i disagree fully on wanting to have a cpu and gpu loop, thats only handy for those who do not have a real machine
I had tons of trouble keeping my system cool enough with the 4 watercooled gpu's, that coolant should never be heated by a cpu before it enters the gpu's again. You acutally want to keep them seperate allways because the cpu get heated anyway by the radiated heat coming from the gpu's. Watercooling or not they still leak a enormous heat in the case. No watercooling system can prevent that.
So yes i want them in their seperate loops at all times, hell even my lady her machine with 2 gpu's has cpu and gpu's in 2 separate loops
It keeps things pretty darn cool. Even when highly stressed.

[Ttaskmaster]

BTW i disagree fully on wanting to have a cpu and gpu loop, thats only handy for those who do not have a real machine

You assume those who have a 'real' machine actually know how to use it, rather than just buying whatever the latest "6-Pack" branded version is...

Nah, it's all just down to preference, really. The same way some people actually choose to ride 125cc motorcycles and go all custom-build on those...

[whatif]

BTW i disagree fully on wanting to have a cpu and gpu loop, thats only handy for those who do not have a real machine

You assume those who have a 'real' machine actually know how to use it, rather than just buying whatever the latest "6-Pack" branded version is...

Nah, it's all just down to preference, really. The same way some people actually choose to ride 125cc motorcycles and go all custom-build on those...

Horses for courses.
Personally, I don't understand why people put led's into PC's, but if that makes them happy, they should go for it. The thing is as long as I am not forced to do it, it does not matter.
I have used 2x AIO's in a lounge room gaming/HTPC inside a Thermaltake V21 case - it has a reference 290x modified with a NZXT G10 and Kraken X41 and Noctua fans to keep it quieter and cooler. It is too small to put in a custom cooling system (I have already modified the case to fit a blue-ray and card reader, plus a internal fan controller and my 2x USB dual TV tuners sit inside on a NZXT IU01 - and I still need to get air to flow through to keep other components cool like all the drives, etc) and the cost would have been at least 2 to 3 times what I paid for the AIO's. Then again I had to help a friend (first time for both of us, so it was like the blind trying to read the instructions and tell the deaf what to do .... smiley) who set up separate SLI and CPU custom water cooling systems in a gaming PC, a lot more expensive with 2 complete systems, a lot harder and longer to put together due to all the fiddly bits to sort out - plus he then has to maintain it. Not arguing for AIO's as the custom loop will work much better overall, just saying that they have their uses.
If there had just been some logic applied to the situation, Asetek should have just said - we have a patient on that and then everyone who is using it has to lose some percentage of the profit to give to Asetek. All it would require is a independant third party decide whether the patient applies - a small fee in comparison to the huge legal costs. No hold on selling and no wasting money trying to sue and defend against being sued. All this court stuff just makes the products more expensive (they have to cover the expense somehow)- while the lawyers get rich, the customers get poorer.