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    Re: AMD Ryzen processor box art revealed by Thai retailer

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Yes, the question was why is the 1800x so much more expensive than the 1700x?
    And, of course, the answer is "halo effect". I mean, it is going to be the highest binned silicon, but we don't know what AMD's binning process and tolerances are, so we don't know how much better it is than the 1700X. I mean, why is the i7 6850K 50% more expensive than the i7 6800k? The only real difference is the number of PCIe lanes available from the processor - sure that's worth a mark up, but 50%?!

    No, it's the same class of product, but if you price it high enough it achieves a halo effect - it's the best in its class. There are plenty of people out there who'll only be happy with the best, and if AMD can essentially sell those people a 1700X at a 25% mark-up, why wouldn't they? A small number of customers get to feel smug about having the best-in-class processor, and everyone feels smug that they paid a lot less for basically the same performance.

    Besides, the 1800X - if the pricing rumours are correct - will still be significantly cheaper than Intel's best 6C/12T chip, let alone their 8C/16T ones. It's a good place for AMD to be - they've more than doubled the selling price of their most expensive chip, yet they're still likely to be much cheaper than comparable Intel chips, and it looks like they'll be competitive in performance terms.

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    Re: AMD Ryzen processor box art revealed by Thai retailer

    On the price difference thing the prices from that EU retailer do seem odd (price gouging?) as this article on WCFFTech shows there's only a $110 difference between the 1800x and 1700x.

    EDIT: Ignore that as I've just realised the EU retailer is the same until they added VAT.

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    Re: AMD Ryzen processor box art revealed by Thai retailer

    Just had a look at some of the AM4 motherboard pictures and none of the boards have more than one 16X rated PCIe slot which I thought was interesting.

    The boards with multiple 16X length slots only had 8X pins connected on the second slot and 4X pins connected on the third slot (if present)

    I guess that this means that Ryzen probably doesn't have 40x PCIe lanes like the top Intel processors.
    Not that I need more than 12 PCIe lanes (8x for graphics and maybe 4x for a new NVMe ssd) but some people might care

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    Re: AMD Ryzen processor box art revealed by Thai retailer

    Ryzen has 24 lanes in the CPU plus additional lanes from the chipsets.

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    Re: AMD Ryzen processor box art revealed by Thai retailer

    can't way for ryzen to drop and bring competition back into the market

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