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Read more.Tests were done with a 'panel of experts', with systems identical apart from GPU and display.
Blind tests are great and all but people really are going to be focusing on numbers as that's what 99.9% of all reviews are based on. It may cut the mustard in usability but systems are built and bought on specs :/
One thing just to note,is that one monitor used a VA panel and the other an IPS panel.
aidanjt (28-07-2017)
Price,price,price.
That's all that matters with Vega, the performance metrics won't be a surprise to anyone, but the price certainly will.
It just remains to see whether it's a pleasant surprise or a card killing one.
Though even reviews are starting to gather metrics that are important in your experiences with the product, like frame times and 1% and 0.1% lows, for e.g., that can be jarring if they're particularly bad. Both hard figures and subjective experiences are useful information. Still, I hope this blind test doesn't go to AMD's head when it comes to pricing RX Vega, they're going to have to undercut the GTX 1080 by a good bit if they want to have a chance.
Originally Posted by Agent
People don't normally buy hardware based on subjective judgments.
They practically always do, but it's usually their own subjective judgement on price to performance and brand loyalty. Very few can afford the luxury of just lumping all the highest performance parts onto their shopping list.
CAT-THE-FIFTH (28-07-2017)
Well you only need to look at console and phone launches,people will line up for them long before even seeing them reviewed in any way,and whether even their "old" phone or tablet is actually significantly worse in anyway.
Maybe i shouldn't have been so succinct.
Having said that i only agree with one of the categories you class as subjective, brand loyalty, the other two i would consider objective as price and performance are not influenced by personal feelings or opinions.
When mathematically evaluating each part, obviously not. But when people are weighing up product options in their heads it's a different matter. People don't just set an absolute budget for each part and spring for the highest performance under that price bracket. They hem and haw and arbitrarily flip things around, consider brands, let budgets slip a bit, etc.. That's all a very subjective value judgement process.
I must be a weirdo then as when buying hardware i do set an absolute budget and buy the highest performance under that price bracket, sure other things sway the final decision but personally those other things would never make up for anything but a minimal performance defect.
Doom is an interesting choice as...I just tested it last weekend on my 980Ti (of course overclocked to the skies) and 4K Gsync monitor. It's 67% higher resolution than the tested ultra wide ones and it was just so smooth (mostly the highest settings everything) i don't really know if it would be any smoother with any other rig. It's only 60Hz and not 100(M)Hz so maybe there would be some...some difference.
Well if the majority of people made purchasing decisions like you, marketing companies and departments would go out of business overnight.
Didn't AMD say the entire AMD setup in these tests was $300 cheaper than the nVidia 1080 setup? Are these different monitors then? A $480 difference in the monitors in the video but $300 difference in the cost of the 1080ti system would put the Vega at around $800-900. That's surely a mistake, right?
Last edited by jamz4; 29-07-2017 at 11:34 AM.
I agree, my old Graphics card AMD 280 played Doom very very well and felt very smooth at 1080p and the 970 i have now isnt a lot smoother. a quite old game to test new hardware on some strange choices there..
Considering that both systems should be able to keep up the games and not need to lower the sync rates why even bother with a sync'd monitor? Much better to just use the exact same monitor on each system.
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