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Does the RAM speed affects games in any different way than loading?
I dont think that many titles support streaming textures feature that is dynamically loading them to Graphic card RAM when you are near the object using it. Also since we have way more memory on the card, it desnt sounds to be needed much.
Do you guys know what may benefit from better memory speeds?
How will Nvidia make more profits with this product? They should have launched it ages ago if it had made sense.
Memory speed does make a difference in games, but it depends on what settings you are running and what other hardware is in play. At 1080p or below you should see fairly good FPS gains because the limitation will be between CPU and RAM. But at 1440p and above the performance limitations are much more likely to be on your graphics card, whether it has high VRAM capacity or not.Originally Posted by DevDrake
In terms of other applications there are cases where faster RAM can be a nice performance improvement but there will still be places where it does nothing to boost performance. Depends entirely on what you're doing.
tl;dr, faster RAM is great if you play games at 1080p or below or if your productivity tasks use a lot of RAM. However, RAM is really expensive right now. I think DDR4 is 40% (?) more expensive than this time last year.
Edit: woops, glad you liked it anyway...
Last edited by Ozaron; 21-09-2017 at 10:50 PM.
It never had any reason to be made, the diference between 1070 and 1080 says that clearly. I think they just perparing process for the next generation with GDDR5X as standard, so why not to ask customers to pay for it
Thanks Ozaron. Thats a nice explanation.
Do you have similar information for the VRAM speeds? That was my original question but i just named it wrong
It's actually basically the same explanationA lot depends on where the bottleneck is. Back when lower spec cards could come with either DDR3 or GDDR5 the versions with the faster RAM where hugely faster because the speed at which you could shove geometry and textures onto the card was the bottleneck. For a very high end card the difference between 8Gbps GDDR5 and 10Gbps GDDR5X is probably marginal, but it will still be there because game data (remember that includes geometry and supporting data as well as textures) does stream into VRAM on the fly. If the 1070 Ti enables more shaders (which some rumours are suggesting) then having faster RAM may become more important - having a faster underlying GPU means it's more likely the VRAM bandwidth will become the limiting factor...
As scaryjim says, it's very much a balancing act. If memory bandwidth were paramount, you'd expect the HBM/HBM 2 on AMD's Fury/Vega products to trounce the competition, but the reality is far from the case. There's no question that memory bandwidth is a necessary part of a top flight graphics card, but it needs to be balanced against the computational power of the GPU, and the speed at which the host system can load/process/feed data to the GPU.
I can't help but feel a 1070ti will do more than just increase RAM bandwidth, because that could easily be quite anticlimactic. I'd expect at least some level of clock bump and/or extra shaders enabled to accompany that to justify the release (and sit it above Vega56, which is basically the sole point of the card).
1070Ti is a blatant example of Nvidia holding back to see where Ryzen et al fits in terms of pricing/performance. I don't like Nvidia but they make the best cards period. I am hoping that this will saturate the 10 platform more and drive the 1080Ti coming down to a more realistic £5-600 pricing point. But i guess the next thing Ncidious will release is a 1090GTXp or some other top end card to fit the +£1k GPU market.
AMD is just there to make Nvidia try harder, but never ever really seems to beat Nvidia, atleast not since ATi days :-) Guaranteed the 1070Ti is going to match AMD current line-up but with less pipes. I still am opting for atleast 1 1080Ti in my next build, possibly 2, and i only plan to play standard games at 1080p, but on a 240hz monitor :-) The AMD is what i would choose if I was trying to build a cheap rig to play games.
Regarding Ram speeds watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Yt4vSZKVk
Regards VRam speeds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJepkW1ZFd4
A rule of thumb is hard to go by it depends on the whole setup you have, or the whole budget. Only thing that is true is that if you are an enthusiast, with top end cards you gotta watercool it.
Thanks guys!
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