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    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Hmm,AMD just filed a trademark for GROK just recently.
    Grok is an old 80's hacker word, I wouldn't read anything into its use here beyond Raja showing his age

    For the youngsters here: You can understand something, but if you truly get it with all its implications then you grok it.

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    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Grok is an old 80's hacker word, I wouldn't read anything into its use here beyond Raja showing his age

    For the youngsters here: You can understand something, but if you truly get it with all its implications then you grok it.
    It was only registered in August and stands for the following:

    verbUSinformal
    understand (something) intuitively or by empathy.
    "corporate leaders seemed to grok this concept fairly quickly"
    establish a rapport.
    "nestling earth couple would like to find water brothers to grok with in peace"
    That would indicate AI or something of that level,and a product being called that. Remember,when everyone was a bit surprised at the trademarks for Ryzen,Epyc and Threadripper.

    He is known for dropping hints like that during his tweets.


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    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    That would indicate AI or something of that level,and a product being called that. Remember,when everyone was a bit surprised at the trademarks for Ryzen,Epyc and Threadripper.

    He is known for dropping hints like that during his tweets.
    I can see it being an AI related trademark, and as a recent trademark the word is probably more on his mind than usual. But to some of us, that really is just a word as it was reasonably common in the early days of the Internet.

    http://www.hacker-dictionary.com/terms/grok

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    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    Basically Raja moved to Intel because he doesn't see AMD being able to compete in the markets Nvidia are in, Raja, AMD and Intel don't want Nvidia to be the only player in AI, machine learning (i hate that term), and the graphics processing that's used in things like self drive cars, Iot devices, VR, AR, and all that stuff.

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    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    I can see it being an AI related trademark, and as a recent trademark the word is probably more on his mind than usual. But to some of us, that really is just a word as it was reasonably common in the early days of the Internet.

    http://www.hacker-dictionary.com/terms/grok
    I know of the term,I am not that young!!

    Its from late 2016 and refers to a chip of some kind. Either its a dig at AMD,or something else is happening.


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    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    Well, to be honest, Raja could just be a massive Heinlein fan. After all it was Robert A. Heinlein, who coined the word for his classic sci-fi novel "Stranger in a Strange Land" back in the early 1960s.

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    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    Quote Originally Posted by spacein_vader View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by decends View Post
    Can you imagine the horror if AMD sold off its GPU department to intel and CPU department to nvidia? A full on war between nvidia and intel......
    They can't. AMDs x86 licence has clauses in around it not being transferable if AMD sells out to a non US company. Unless NV is willing to completely restructure into the US they can't buy the Cpu side.
    AMD could "buy" nvidia and it would all work out fine.
    AMD: "Hi, Intel. Despite all our differences over the years, we'd like to sell you our graphics department as you've just stolen it's chief from us"
    Intel: "Errr, wow, sure. We're using your graphics chips, lets cut a deal!"
    AMD: "Right, nvidia, we cut the slack, 51% and a graphics rebrand and "we're yours" if you catch my drift".



    The fanboy tears alone would be worth it

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    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    Quote Originally Posted by MercutioUK View Post
    AMD could "buy" nvidia and it would all work out fine.
    AMD: "Hi, Intel. Despite all our differences over the years, we'd like to sell you our graphics department as you've just stolen it's chief from us"
    Intel: "Errr, wow, sure. We're using your graphics chips, lets cut a deal!"
    AMD: "Right, nvidia, we cut the slack, 51% and a graphics rebrand and "we're yours" if you catch my drift".



    The fanboy tears alone would be worth it


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    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    Hope AMD has a water type NDA with Raja or he excludes himself from anything that may bring a legal action.

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    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    Its hilarious,on US forums some seem to be trying to spin this all as "AMD is doomed" despite the fact that in the last year Intel even gave away game codes if you bought an AMD graphics card with an Intel CPU,and just integrated an AMD GPU in one of their CPUs.


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    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    If anything I'd say this will be extremely advantageous to AMD, when you think of all the open standards championed by RTG having Intel putting its weight behind them is probably going to pay dividends in the future, on one side you have Nvidia with loads of propitiatory stuff and on the other side AMD with things like OpenCL, Vulkan, FreeSync, Heterogeneous computing, etc, etc, and they've now been joined by Intel who will probably drive the adoption of a lot of that tech.

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    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    Quote Originally Posted by azrael- View Post
    Well, to be honest, Raja could just be a massive Heinlein fan. After all it was Robert A. Heinlein, who coined the word for his classic sci-fi novel "Stranger in a Strange Land" back in the early 1960s.
    I was going to say - surely heinleins estate has an opinion on that trademark?

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    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    Quote Originally Posted by Corky34 View Post
    If anything I'd say this will be extremely advantageous to AMD, when you think of all the open standards championed by RTG having Intel putting its weight behind them is probably going to pay dividends in the future, on one side you have Nvidia with loads of propitiatory stuff and on the other side AMD with things like OpenCL, Vulkan, FreeSync, Heterogeneous computing, etc, etc, and they've now been joined by Intel who will probably drive the adoption of a lot of that tech.
    Well apparently when Jim Keller left in 2015,Zen was utterly doomed according the the same forums and AMD was definitely heading for bankruptcy!


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    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    It'll sound very paranoid, but almost 2 years ago, a certain site revealed the trouble brewing behind the scenes at AMD. Apparently Raja was essentially blackmailing the company, forcing Su to place him as head of the GPU division. They also covered MANY things which have surprisingly come true, including him trying to pimp himself out to Intel.

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    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    Whilst it sounds paranoid, you have to ask yourself, just what kind of deal was done behind closed doors?

    Did Raja essentially sabotage AMD

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    Re: Raja Koduri joins Intel to spearhead graphics products

    intel graphic cards in future? It is strange, coz I don think that Intel have a problem with his sold in laptobs, but maybe the laptops with only integrated graphics are not selling so good.
    I dont know exactly how much of it is good for AMD.

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