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    Re: Intel makes 'Security-First Pledge'

    It seems everybody is jumping amd train now,but everyone omitted that amd is affected as well by spectre and there will be slowdowns to amd too. From what i could gather info the Meltdown bug did not had an major impact in performance but spectre patch (which amd suffer from it as well) is the most performance impacting update.

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    Re: Intel makes 'Security-First Pledge'

    Quote Originally Posted by spacein_vader View Post
    Got a source for where they literally told the EU high courts to do one?
    You know that €1 billion fine that was handed to them back in 2009 and Intel turned round and appealed (which is in their right to do so). However, Intel doesn't have a god damn leg to stand on because of their aggressive rebating has been proven to only be given as long as AMD products weren't also sold.

    The reason for appeal was ridiculous and now 8 years on, the case is no further to being slapped on Intel. The EU HC need to grow some Cojones and stop letting Intel waffle iron.

    But it's all legal process, what seemed to be an ironclad case with large swathes of evidence was just let go with an appeal.
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    Re: Intel makes 'Security-First Pledge'

    Quote Originally Posted by Raven74 View Post
    It seems everybody is jumping amd train now,but everyone omitted that amd is affected as well by spectre and there will be slowdowns to amd too. From what i could gather info the Meltdown bug did not had an major impact in performance but spectre patch (which amd suffer from it as well) is the most performance impacting update.
    Well there's only 2 trains at the station mate so it's no surprise people are getting on the least buggered of the 2.
    Grab that. Get that. Check it out. Bring that here. Grab anything useful. Take anything good.

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    Re: Intel makes 'Security-First Pledge'

    I couldn't have put it better ^

    I'd already decided to go AMD - before any of this current crap. But I admit I was wavering, but the cost side of it swung it. Now I'm certain. Even if AMD got more expensive I don't think I'd go intel.

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    Re: Intel makes 'Security-First Pledge'

    Quote Originally Posted by Raven74 View Post
    It seems everybody is jumping amd train now,but everyone omitted that amd is affected as well by spectre and there will be slowdowns to amd too. From what i could gather info the Meltdown bug did not had an major impact in performance but spectre patch (which amd suffer from it as well) is the most performance impacting update.
    Wrong way around. Meltdown, the Intel only one, is the one with the potentially big impact. If you are just playing games then you probably won't be able to feel any difference though, just patch and carry on as normal.

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    Re: Intel makes 'Security-First Pledge'

    You released Coffee Lake knowing it had the flaws, I mean wtf is that?

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    Re: Intel makes 'Security-First Pledge'

    It take a little longer than 6 months to redesign a microarchitecture and the ISA has included instructions for developers to use to better deal with the segmentation of data for over 6 years.

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