UK aims to be "the safest place in world to be online"

[Smudger]

Is this why the looney left are considering making paedophiles legal as it is just an alternative lifestyle and we shouldn’t judge them?

Citation please

[Ttaskmaster]

Specifically about the online trolling, bullying and other ‘hate crimes’, there are already plenty of measures to deal with that and we certainly don’t need even more layers added: A) Don’t read what people post about you on the internet, B) Delete and block people that say things you don’t like, C) If you feel harassed gather evidence and take it to the police.

A) It's more that other people read what other people are saying about you.
B) Blocking them yourself doesn't stop them from broadcasting it to the world and making unwitting bullies of everyone else.
C) Too late, damage done.

Bullying in person means you have to be strong enough to bully the other person and not fear getting smacked in the face for it. Having remote anonymous access to public broadcasting means you can terrorise, bully, defame and generally abuse someone who doesn't even have internet access.

This is only a problem because the youth today throw their soul out on to social media and crave acceptance then when they dont attain their own overly inflated goals threaten suicide.

The Fappening.
Private moments from private accounts, not even publicly thrown out on social media, force-hacked and plastered all over the world.
Yes, someone got sent down for it, but this was a massively high-profile case. Other non-celeb people have been hacked, doxed, etc and their lives ruined, and not just through debatably-inadequate cybersecurity, either.

Heck, just look at how the newspapers have always been able to destroy a celebrity just from ambiguously phrasing a mere rumour... which has often proven to be completely fabricated, anyway. But by then it's too late and the damage has been done.
You seriously want everyone to have that kind of access, to spew their vile opinions and spread even more hatred?
What starts as a snowflake 'hate crime' ends up as a recruiting tool for all sorts of insidious things.

Since when did going out in public mean you don’t have to be publicly scrutinised?

Since you yourself are there, in person, for reals, able to address the issue and defend yourself directly. Generally you only attract that kind of scrutiny if you're doing something unusual anyway.

[Corky34]

Most people from all over the planet would still agree that the behaviour of some, 'because it's the Internet', is regarded as highly undesirable and at best would earn you a head-kicking if you did that in person...

Such as what?
I can't really think of anything that would be potentially punishable over there, that we wouldn't frown on over here too...

I've done no verification other than what I've picked up over time in news snippets but don't places like Russia, China, or North Korea have laws against homosexuality, political speech, criticising their leaders and things like that?

Also highly undesirable is not the same thing as illegal, although some of the crazy laws and court cases we've seen in recent years do make me wonder at times.

[Ttaskmaster]

I've done no verification other than what I've picked up over time in news snippets but don't places like Russia, China, or North Korea have laws against homosexuality, political speech, criticising their leaders and things like that?

Well if they're able to come and actually arrest me for being gay in their corner of the internet, they're welcome to it... I actually forgot about that element of it. I guess that's perhaps indicative of how far we've come, in that I didn't even think about homosexuality being illegal somewhere?

IIRC, there is/was some EU legislation that made it a crime to criticise the EU. I remember it being discussed around 2010, down the pub! So not that different from criticising their leaders....

Also highly undesirable is not the same thing as illegal

Tough, then. Cultural difference. Accept it and embrace the multi-culturalism that is the Internet.

[peterb]

Well if they're able to come and actually arrest me for being gay in their corner of the internet, they're welcome to it... I actually forgot about that element of it. I guess that's perhaps indicative of how far we've come, in that I didn't even think about homosexuality being illegal somewhere?

Nah, they'll just spread novichok on your door handle...

[Corky34]

Tough, then. Cultural difference. Accept it and embrace the multi-culturalism that is the Internet.

Either that or people need to accept that just because you (the collective you) disagree or find something undesirable doesn't mean we (again collectively) should just shutdown or ban those undesirable things.

[Ttaskmaster]

Nah, they'll just spread novichok on your door handle...

I don't have one... and am usually wearing thick bike gloves anyway.

Either that or people need to accept that just because you (the collective you) disagree or find something undesirable doesn't mean we (again collectively) should just shutdown or ban those undesirable things.

But we can also restrict them.

[Corky34]

But we can also restrict them.

Just because we can doesn't mean we should.

[Ttaskmaster]

Just because we can doesn't mean we should.

We could always employ a non-profit organisation to take a census...

It should certainly be a consideration, if only a regional restriction. Already individual sites take measures tyo ban, block, restrict and remove certain content, because the people who frequent those sites don't want it... in the same way Motorcycle MC Colours, Football shirts and similar things are banned from certain venues, or persons with criminal records are prohibited from travelling to certain countries. This is not really any different in principle.

[Corky34]

We could always employ a non-profit organisation to take a census...

Why would we take a census when we can simply ignore the loonies....*adds Ttaskmaster to ignore list*

[Ttaskmaster]

Why would we take a census when we can simply ignore the loonies....*adds Ttaskmaster to ignore list*

How dare you apply a restriction to the internet!
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.....