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    Samsung starts 7nm LPP wafer production

    It can yield 20 per cent higher performance or 50 per cent lower power consumption.
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    Re: Samsung starts 7nm LPP wafer production

    Tech waters will also be aware of the other potential benefits of a process shrink

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    Re: Samsung starts 7nm LPP wafer production

    It took me a moment to figure the scale... those factories are humongous!

    Another 7nm factory... Intel? I wonder if AMD will be making some chips there...

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    Re: Samsung starts 7nm LPP wafer production

    ....People being happy? American and European tech companies are failing their citizens by shifting manufacturing to Asia. As intel loose American jobs will be at risk, if Apple could have fab its chips on intel process then America could be richer.

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    Re: Samsung starts 7nm LPP wafer production

    Quote Originally Posted by lumireleon View Post
    ....People being happy? American and European tech companies are failing their citizens by shifting manufacturing to Asia. As intel loose American jobs will be at risk, if Apple could have fab its chips on intel process then America could be richer.
    Not to be facetious as i do directly benefit from fabs being local to the countries I'm in for better pricing. But what's the problem with a business operating like a business?

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    Re: Samsung starts 7nm LPP wafer production

    Furthermore, with EUV a single mask can be made to make a where ArF could need up to four masks for the same job.
    Make a what? Wafer?

    Quote Originally Posted by lumireleon View Post
    American and European tech companies are failing their citizens by shifting manufacturing to Asia. As intel loose American jobs will be at risk, if Apple could have fab its chips on intel process then America could be richer.
    I agree with Tabby on this one, a company isn't in business to benefit the countries they operate in or where they are registered, they're there primarily to make profits etc. Yes they can operate in an ethical manner, however that isn't their primary purpose.

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    Re: Samsung starts 7nm LPP wafer production

    Quote Originally Posted by Iota View Post
    Make a what? Wafer?
    Exposure, I think?

    I boggle that something like photo resist can work at these scales, but one mask operation at EUV is equivalent to 4 multi patterned operations to mask off a layer ready for doping, depositing, or whatever operation is next in the construction.

    I agree with Tabby on this one, a company isn't in business to benefit the countries they operate in or where they are registered, they're there primarily to make profits etc. Yes they can operate in an ethical manner, however that isn't their primary purpose.
    Yep, that's the job of governments to make key industries thrive in their area.

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    Re: Samsung starts 7nm LPP wafer production

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Yep, that's the job of governments to make key industries thrive in their area.
    Exactly, a company is there for best dollar results. I don't even think ethics even come into play, maybe more morality. If a company has a choice to bolster a community in one country at a higher cost to help the countries economic status, that's not an ethical choice, it is a moral one.

    But if a countries government makes it too expensive, or uncertain, for a company to deploy in that country then that is not the companies fault for making a decision to go to another. That's just economics.

    That's why i think this America-China trade war is ridiculous, it's immorally impacting the countries citizens to try and bolster the economy for a perceived long term return. But China is so much larger than the US as an economic power so it can easily soak up what they're doing and the true impact is not felt in the oligarchy of the US, more the lower and middle classes. As per freaking usual.

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    Re: Samsung starts 7nm LPP wafer production

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    ... That's why i think this Trump-China trade war is ridiculous ...
    ftfy

    (although I acknowledge that he's dragging the whole country with him....)

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    Re: Samsung starts 7nm LPP wafer production

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    ftfy

    (although I acknowledge that he's dragging the whole country with him....)
    Ha ha, yeah that's true!

    He has to be commended for standing up for it, but actions speak volumes and i feel the way it is being done is more hurting the dollar than it is hurting the yen.

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